Monday, September 6th, 2010

Islam in Dearborn, Michigan

Muslims in Dearborn USA

Muslims in Dearborn USA

Ford, Muslims and mosques in Dearborn, Michigan

Dearborn is the hometown of Henry Ford and the world headquarters of the Ford Motor Company. Many years ago Muslim immigrants to the United States (US) were drawn to the relatively high-paying jobs associated with the auto industry in the area.

Dearborn, Michigan now has the largest single concentration of Arab Muslims in North America. There are 32,000 Arab Muslims from Lebanon, Yemen and Iraq living in East Dearborn, making up almost 1/3 of the population. In some districts it is common to see store signs and billboards written in Arabic.

The Islamic Centre of America in Dearborn, a Shi'a mosque frequented mostly by Lebanese Muslims, is the largest mosque in the US. The Centre's attractive website has several good photos: http://www.icofa.com/.

Mosques and Islamic Centres play an important role in the life of American Muslims. They are places of refuge and of rest; places where a Muslim can experience the Islamic community and learn about Islam. Many Muslims feel safer and more relaxed within the centres which are somewhat isolated from outside influences. Dearborn is one of the few places in the US where one can actually hear the call to prayer publicly over a loudspeaker.

There have been a number of efforts to make Christ better known to Muslims in Dearborn. However, many believers say that in general, it can sometimes be even harder to discuss believing in Jesus with Muslims in Dearborn than elsewhere. Muslims in Michigan have a fortress mentality manifested in community pressure to conform to Muslim ideals.

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Prayer starters:

* Pray that the Muslims in Dearborn will respond to the Gospel message they have heard (Acts 28:26-28).

* Pray for the Arabic speaking Muslim background believers who live in the area. May they have God's grace in the Yemeni, Iraqi and Lebanese neighborhoods to start new communities of believers.

* Pray for the new adult male believers in the Messiah to openly profess their faith in the context of their families, as well as in the larger Muslim communities. Their influence and authority in the home and society will pave the way for the Gospel to be heard and obeyed by others.


From Thief to Giver

Ali (not his real name) was a man with a very hard heart. In the past he would ride trains and befriend people. When they fell asleep, he would steal their belongings, jump off the train and sell the things. He tried Islam but it did not change him. When his sister-in-law became a Christian he persecuted her. Later, however, he acknowledged Jesus as Lord and he is now one of the main leaders of the church! The transformation in his life has been nothing less than incredible! He is one of the most humble and loving men we know. This is especially seen in how he cares for his wife and daughters!


Thoughts that disturb ...

* Muslims often believe that the Bible has been altered and corrupted. They will deny its authority because they see it as not being authentic.

* Muslims believe the Holy Trinity implies a belief in three gods. Many Muslims believe that the Christian Trinity is made up of the Father, Mary (the virgin) and the Son (Jesus).

* They believe it is blasphemy to affirm the divinity of Jesus and to give Him the title “Son of God”. Many believe this implies that God had sexual relations with Mary and that a son was born physically through the union. (This idea is also unacceptable for Christians.)


Video Link: Dearborn, Arab Capital of America, history and info about Islamic Center in Dearborn [3:26]


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59 Responses to “Islam in Dearborn, Michigan”
  1. Myrtle says:

    Thank you for this information about Muslims in Dearborn. Many Americans are not aware of the contributions Muslims have made to the community. I think I would like to visit the museum that was mentioned in the video. I'm am sending this site to friends from my church who have a concern for and love for Muslim.

    • xen says:

      Please refer to the entry by Daylan on november 16, 2009 below in regards to my reply)
      Daylan, it is interesting after all the banter that came before your entry, none answered you after you wrote your wise words. I believe you brought about the most truth here than all of them. Just as Jesus said in the gospel of John, (ch 3, verses 19-21) "And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God." Keep sharing your heart and thoughts like this one: "It is only when we "grow up" and learn to hate and learn that we are "better than the rest" that our true failure becomes evident." and also this thought "Find your child heart and lose the hate for each other. Pride and self-righteousness is your greatest enemy." Yes i agree with you, Daylan. We are united in that we are all created beings. We will continue to be united if we seek to love and not hate. Jesus committed the greatest act of love in all history - He died on a cross for all the guilt of mankind, that their debts would be forgiven. If anyone believed in Him and what He did on their behalf they would be able to then live for that great Love and commune with such a giving selfless God who cleanses us from ALL our guilt. Only God can do that. I can only live for a God of Love. A god that encourages hate and death just can't be the True God.
      Take care and may His blessings and Light be upon you! Thanks again Daylon for sharing!
      xen

  2. Brent says:

    I appreciate your ministry of prayer for the Muslim world, however it does concern me that while we pray for them 'we' (the West) are also bombing them and have targeted them for military and economic domination, as outlined in the US policy document Project for a New American Century and as shown by our military takeover of Iraq and Afghanistan and ongoing threats against Iran. Could some of us perhaps pray for repentance on the part of our own political establishment that we stop aggressive military actions against the Muslim world?

    • Wayne says:

      Are you for real? Let me guess, an Episcopal or Lutheran church?
      First off, we are not in Iraq or Afghanistan to "take over anything."
      Secondly if the Muslim's continue to gain power here, we lose more freedoms, so I really don't even want them here.
      Thirdly, stop blaming America, pray for our protection against THEM, pray for Israel's protection against THEM and stop watching ABC, CBS and NBC or CNN to get your news as they are all puppet medias. Even FOX can not tell the truth half the time as they are partly owned by Arabs.

      Conservative news is the only news that is going to tell you how, when and where America went wrong and how to fix it before the progressives of Marxism take over our land completely.

      Stop being fooled by a liberal church, a liberal media, a liberal government and your liberal friends.

      • Al.caswa says:

        @ Wayne
        it must come a time in everyone's life when they MUST wake up.
        You do not need to be protected from Islam..
        you need to be protected from your own government...
        Whatever gave you the idea that you are FREE...??
        Your comments about Iraq and Afghanistan tell's me that you are not
        following your politics, because IF you were, you would know that WE are
        in the process of taking over the mid east..of course with the help
        of israel...
        it is not Islam not the Muslim who are depriving you of your freedoms..
        it is yourself and your lack of knowledge about what is really going on
        with the mid east...and why...

  3. JP says:

    I lived in the South End and the East End of Dearborn for two years, the Yemeni and Lebanese areas respectively. It was wonderful to be in the midst of Arabic Islamic culture. Especially in the South End, where you can hear the call to prayer, 90% of the women are veiled (and 10% embittered Italians protesting on their steps in bikinis), the shops and signs in Arabic, with Yemeni coffee houses and a general appearance like you find in the Middle East. I do not say all these things are wonderful as inherent goods in their own right, but rather, because I got to experience them with the people, in the midst of something far closer to their own culture than anywhere else in America. It was valuable to be able to love them in the midst of where they are comfortable.

  4. Barbara says:

    Regarding "(America's) "aggressive military action against the Moslem world", it was militant Islam that declared war on America. While we need to have compassion on those held under this ideology, we need to stan up against the terrorism perpetrated in its name.

    • Caswa says:

      @ Barbara, Islam never declared war on America.
      check your history

      • KKKK says:

        what do you call 9, 11, 2001? What do you call the iranian president's statement, "get ready for a world minus the U.S.?" What do you call bin Laden's bost, "We shall see the end of America as America, God willing. What about other attacks and statements by Muslim leaders?

        • caswa says:

          @kkkk
          you asked" what do you call 9/11..?" well kkkk, when buildings collapses in 9 and 11 seconds like the towers did..i call it controlled demolition..what do you call it..?think about this very hard....
          About the Iranian president words...well, seems to me that the way usa is handling things,
          its only a matter of time before usa will annihilate herself from the map, like
          usa is doing with other countries such Iraq, Afghanistan,ect..ect..and it looks like bin laden thinks so as well..for that matter most americans think that..
          or do you think that america is immune to its own wrath? i live here..i see what is going on...
          dont you..?
          Do check the history of the united states and invasions/occupations of other countries..
          who invaded Iran in the early 60..how about Afghanistan..then we have Iraq...
          I see that you lack knowledge in this departament...
          If only people would do their home work before they speak....
          the history is available for all to read...
          you do have a computer..use it.
          May Allah guide us all to Islam..Ameen..

  5. MOURAD says:

    salam alikoum.

    I am Mourad, 37 old, new immigrant to the USA, from north africa, I am living in Florida, and because I am alone, I am feelling that I am stranger in this country, I would like to move to Dearborn, where I can find people who talk arabic, and can help me to grow in this country, I heard that Dearborn is pupled by a lot of muslim, I hope to go there, and be serrounded by muslim peple, which can help me to keep my religion and integrate in this society.

    Salam alikoum, your friend Mourad,

    • Wayne says:

      Go back to freaking wherever you are from we don't need any more of Allah's followers here.
      I hope that one day the Muslims of Dearborne are sent packing.

      • Al.caswa says:

        @ Wayne
        this earth does not belong to you nor anyone else, but it belong to Allah..
        Everyone's has the right to be anywhere they like to be...
        Do you not know that there is only One God worth worshipping..
        and that God is Allah...?
        He is not the God of the Muslim...but He's the Creator of all that you see...
        and all of that you cannot see...
        you may not like it,but this is one fact that you cannot change..
        May Allah guide you on the straight path....

        • al.caswa says:

          @ JJ..
          May Allah swa guide you on the Straight Path
          read your words...can you not see that Shytan/Satan has you tight
          in his fist....??

  6. tim says:

    your bible is filled with hate. and why are you trying to get a foot hold in a country that is against all your beliefs? Why come to America? no one trusts or likes you
    . just leave...
    some of your lovely verses:
    Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39
    O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people.- 5:54

    Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another.- 48:25
    Fight them so that Allah may punish them at your hands, and put them to shame.(verse cited in Newsweek 2/11/02)
    Qur’an 47:4 “Strike off the heads of the disbelievers”; and after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives
    allah is satan

    • Tiffany says:

      You xyx!! U just called God, The Almighty, Satan. Allah is a translated word for God, the Almighty. Would you say Dios is Satan? Even arab-speaking christians say Allah! It is always wise to think before you speak, and to seek knowledge of things than you have no understanding of!

      Comment edited by Admin, we allow positive conversation between Christians and Muslims and tolerate quite a bit, but we do not allow any hatred from any side. I hope that is now clear!

      • Tiffany says:

        After this I wont comment here anymore, I have said all that I needed to say. If you are muslim, maybe you need to check yourself to see what you stand for. How dare you allow a non beliver to refer to Allah, lord and master of all satan,but censor me? Allah knows best.

      • Caswa says:

        @ Tiffany
        Allah does not mean God is arabic
        Allah is the Name of God,and it is as unique as Allah is.
        The name Allah is really not a male name, and cannot be a female name,nor can It be plural.
        The name Allah is just as unique as Allah is...there is none like Him
        never will be....

    • linton says:

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    • Caswa says:

      @ Tim
      Perhaps you do not know that when we will meet Our Creator we will be held
      accountable for the words we speak.
      And if your words caused someone to reject Islam....
      your punishment will be so severe that you will wish you would be dust....
      and it does not matter if you believe in Islam or not.
      However, that punishment may be nothing compared to the punishment for calling Allah
      what you have called Him..
      A wise person would read about the description of Hell and the description of Heaven
      before is to late....
      You know Tim, Allah/God has given us everything we need to know about this life,
      and the hearafter.. as there is no coming back after death...
      one should not make that decision without knowing what the "accomodations" are in Hell
      If you wish to read about Hell and its dwellings, its foods and drinks for its habitants,
      feel free to ask i will give you a link..
      May you be guided...

      • Wayne says:

        Wrong! Jesus is Lord and King!
        Muslims will not be getting any virgins when they're shuffled off to hell.
        Furthermore, if Jihad comes to America again, all Muslims are going to regret it.

        • Al.caswa says:

          @ Wayne
          IF.....you would read your Bible and make an effort to understand what it is you are reading..
          you would know that Jesus never claim divinity..
          He never said" i am God worship me"
          He never said" i am the son of Allah/God"
          But He said" the Father is greated than I"
          He said" follow Me, but worship the Father"...
          meaning..> follow my teachings, but worship the Father"
          when he said "trough Me you will find the Kingdom of Heaven"
          He meant that only by doing as He did, by observing the Commands of God
          and by observing the message He came with we will go to Heaven...
          tell me Wayne...what was Jesus Message...?

          • Willie says:

            His message was simple. Love the Lord your God (Johvah, Yahweh, I Am. not Allah) with all your ht soul and mind, and love your neighbor like you love yourself. Matthew 22: 36-39.

  7. Ron in Calif. says:

    You people are stupid as hell to let these people in to our country. ISlam is the greatest threat to the world and to freedom. You are commiting suicide.

    • mc says:

      You are sooo ignorant and dont know anything you probally get all your info from the news . I feel sorry for you that you feel that way. My husband and children are all caucasion of European decent and where Christians and have been in the Military are now Muslims and trust me no one we have heard of or know nor we would ever do something stupid like that it even goes agianst Islam, but you have to wonder why would they do that? they must have to be really upset over something and seeing how people treat Muslims I can say they are breeding hate in people who would not otherwise feel so.

      • brownamerican says:

        Im gonna take a wild guess from your terrible english grammar and typing ability and assume that youre lying and that youve always been a muslim. Allah can lick my butt

        • Iraj says:

          Hi!
          1) Allah is an Arabic word that was anciently : "Al- Elah". Al means The, and Elah means God. Allah is the Arabic name of "The God". Arab Christian and Jews use that name for the god they believe (for example Arab Christians call Jesus "ibn-Allah" that means son of the god). So if you are really a Christian, you should not insult Allah.
          2)Islam and Muslims are not treat for you , your country or your freedom. History says it's the west which has been a treat for Muslims: crusades wars, colonization, capturing Muslim lands, invading Muslim countries (even before 9/11) and....
          3) It's funny that someone wants to destroy other one's rights and freedoms to protect Freedom!!! Ask yourself what is that Freedom without right of immigrating, free religion and right of respect.

  8. Tim made own interpretation of Quran. It is dangerous ! If you don't know or don't understand, consult a knowledgeble people . Don't translate one verse out of context. Tim doesn NOT know that, in Islam it is a great sin to kill, in Saudi Arabia which practice Islamic law fully, if a MUslim kills a man (Muslim or non Muslim, he (the offender) will be killed (as the only penalty). So.. what is Tim talking about ? The verses the Tim quoted is in reference to old wars between Muslim and the non Muslims. The non Muslim (jews, non Muslim Arab, Christian IN THE PAST) did not honour their sealed treaty with the prophets, so Muslim at that time were ordered to fight and defend. If you quote one versse, of out the many revant verses, you know.. the meaning and interpretation is deviate. WRONG INTERPRETATION ! DANGEROUS. Muslim if they are not a scholar, are advised that they CANNOT interpret on their own any verses. Ask, if they dont know. If we listen to Tim's translation it is like in Saudi Arabia for example, it is legal, allowed to kill anyone !! (of course he got from souces at his disposal maybe correct- but to pick one verse out of the many by unbeliever is wrong !)

    Ron also difficult and immature maybe. You know..many political 'terrorists" used the name of "Islam"
    to achieve their POLITICAL goal by killing and bombimg innocent peoples ! It is against Islamic teaching. Unfortunately they were Muslims. But terrorist in Northern Islan that bombed, killed peoples were NOT Muslim ! They are Irish separatist. You remeber, not a very long time ago the one who bombed Oklahoma was not a Muslim but Timothy McVey ?

    I believe, maybe those Muslim who did those un speeakable things were so upset with unfair treatment to their countries, Muslims, as happened in Palestine, Russia, Kosovo, Chehnya etc. I think you will act the same if your family is attacked, killed, or threatened in all aspects like in those countries. Will you keep quite if your family is being attacked and killed ? So it happened to be Muslims. It is NOT FAIR to close you eyes and say "Muslim is terrorist" by generalizing all of them. Are you matured enough ?

    For sure thing, in Islam it s wrong, a great sin to kill the innocent peoples. Even in a war, women, children, handicapped, the olds MUST be spared. This means you cannot shoot your enemy if those innocents were there. You are allowed to kill the army only. Please read hadiths (the saying of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) if you dont believe me. So, pls. don't accuse anything by your lack of knowledge. TQ

  9. islamisevil says:

    There certainly seems to be a lot of "misunderstanding" with the quran...

    Everytime someone calls out some of the hate filled verses so prevalent in their holy book, some muslim rushes to say how we are "taking it out of context" or how we aren't "scholars" and can't begin to understand....

    I agree, it's only a book after all. I choose to base my opinion on how muslims ACT, not what they read. The thing is, there is no separation between the book and the acts...read the papers, surf the internet, islam is responsible for countless acts of barbarity since it's inception.
    http://www.jihadwatch.com

    Nasaei claims that the war verses quoted above were from "old times", but look at islam in practice today in Pakistan, Iraq, Iran and yes in Saudi Arabia too. Women are enslaved, leaving islam means death, honor killings are abundant, the list of atrocities is long. Islamic police pushed 14 girls back into a burning school, to their death, because they rushed out without their head coverings. This is islam, stand up and take notice. Try to preach Christianity in Saudi Arabia....heh, try to speak your mind about anything, anything at all in any of these countries and see what happens.

    The UK is probably lost, and will be islamic within 15 years, in large part due to multiculturalism and political correctness. Just like the muslim above who wants to move from Florida to Dearborn, these immigrants do not become part of the meting pot, they dont integrate into society. Instead they create their own societies and grow in number until they can make fundamental changes in the gov't and way of life for non muslims. Sharia law anyone? No thanks.

    Make no mistake, islam is not a religion, it is a political ideology, one which is bent on spreading itself throughout the world, subjugating non believers....

    Dearborn is a dangerous example of the future.

    • Jazyali says:

      @ Islamisevil....

      Well that is one way of perciving it.........after all......Aren't ALL CHRISTIANS LIVING THE WAY CHRIST INTENTED THEM TO?

      Be realistic.....Humans will be humans.....

      My other problem is your persistence of how Muslims use the "misunderstanding" term to their defense......

      Well to begin with......if ignorant people stop repeating the same allegations that they get from islamhate.com.....or theworldisgoingtoislam.com......or even islampropoganda.com that have been answered a millions times by individuals ....then i guess the muslims will back off.....

      But if you try to attack muslims with your perception.....then they also have a right to defend themselves......Logical don't u think?

      if you don't superimpose your opinion of what they are .....then i guess they will just be themselves.....Hmmm.....i guess that would be "radical" idea for you to follow though!

      Take your "fear Mongering" baggage somewhere else....oh yeah go watch the tele....fox news is on!

      (My ironic take is intended to shake up and mend...rather then instill hate.....take what you will )

      Salam and peace be with you

    • Jazyali says:

      @ islamisevil

      In regards to your comments

      " these immigrants do not become part of the meting pot, they dont integrate into society".

      Have you ever heard of a mosaic? That is another way of looking at it.......yet has an artistic form to it too.......all the different parts/patterns/colors complete the whole picture.....

      I guess that would again be a radical idea!
      Think about it..........

      Salam and peace be with you

    • Tiffany says:

      Hummm, how about actually talking to a muslim instead of listening to the media!?....Wait! silly me, the media Always tells the truth!...right???

      • TDI says:

        How about actually talking to the Almighty God and asking Him what He thinks and believes? People can say what they want, but the God of the world does not lie. Ask!

      • Emily says:

        you see thats the problem with most people....they wanna talk without actually asking the group or person what it is really about. I was submerged in a Arabic only household for 6 straight months, and they are loving, and free! Honestly to me, Arab women have much more freedom than the so-called fundamentalist Christian woman. In the first 3 months of pregnancy you are able to get an abortion, easily!

  10. mir says:

    i am a SUNNI muslim and from the family of Ahle Bait . to understand ISLAM go back to the earlier history of religions. the earlier prophets were sent for particular areas during a particular time with a particular mission. they were not given an international mission. copies of TORAH were lost and it does not exist in its original form. similiarly bible is not in its original form. it is available in its translation in corroupt form.QURAN is the only book in its original form on EARTH for the last 1400 years. the true copy of QURAN is with GOD THE ALMIGHTY. BESIDES IT IS PRESERVED in the hearts of people across the world and repeated day and night. further muslims present themselves before GOD without any intermediary like rabbi or pope. they are responsible for their acts. muslims believe that all prophets were born just like Adam and Eve (PBUT) from no where. the christian mission is bound to fail.

  11. Tiffany says:

    NEWS FLASH, not all muslims are from other countries. Christians...say what you will but by the hours many of you around the world are converting to Islam (like myself). Your beloved troops are failing and your 30 day mission WILL also fail. You will never get a beliver in Islam to turn your way. If a "muslim" does, he/she was never one to begin with. Who Allah has set on this strait path can never be lead astray. You Christians are cowards and are ran and controlled by fear. Of what?
    All but The Almighty. And If you claim that you really do fear him alone, (as it says to in Qur'an and your own book) then know what ever he wills, will be. It is not our mission to make you muslim. Allah chooses who he wills for this path. Soo to sum it up......Get yourselves right!!!!!!

    • Daylan says:

      Well, I've heard both extremes here and have heard more about hate and prejudice than anything else. Your zealousy for your own cause and faith bliinds you all to the simple fact that we are all brothers and sisters on this world. The laws and religions you all speak so highly of are all creations of men who want to control and manipulate the masses to their own ends (whether for good or not). The Creator or Great Spirit does exist in each of us but cannot be described or comprehended by us in our current state. It is the spark of life that fuels all creation, all life, Yes even that statement presumes too much. Just as politicians try to keep their populations at each others throats to ensure their power is maintained so to do the religions of the world keep us apart and at each others throats. There can be no peace with doctrines such as the ones I hear in this chat vying for power over the minds and souls of men and women. Only when we all seek to find our own connection with spirit and take the personal path rather than the path dictated to us by others will we find true peace. When we are children, we can play together and never see the differences we all have as an obstacle. It is only when we "grow up" and learn to hate and learn that we are "better than the rest" that our true failure becomes evident. I am just as guilty for most of my life. How long will you continue to follow blindly and continue to fuel the hate. There are no sides, there is only truth. And the truth is within your heart, your child heart. Allah, God, Jehovah, Great Spirit whatever the name, it is universal in it's ideal...it is also unfortunate that it is twisted to serve anything but Allah, God, Jehovah, Great Spirit. Find your child heart and lose the hate for each other. Pride and self-righteousness is your greatest enemy. I wish you all bright blessings and peace in your hearts.

      • xen says:

        Daylan, it is interesting after all the banter that came before your entry, none answered you after you wrote your wise words. I believe you brought about the most truth here than all of them. Just as Jesus said in the gospel of John, (ch 3, verses 19-21) "And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God." Keep sharing your heart and thoughts like this one: "It is only when we "grow up" and learn to hate and learn that we are "better than the rest" that our true failure becomes evident." and also this thought "Find your child heart and lose the hate for each other. Pride and self-righteousness is your greatest enemy." Yes i agree with you, Daylan. We are united in that we are all created beings. We will continue to be united if we seek to love and not hate. Jesus committed the greatest act of love in all history - He died on a cross for all the guilt of mankind, that their debts would be forgiven. If anyone believed in Him and what He did on their behalf they would be able to then live for that great Love and commune with such a giving selfless God who cleanses us from ALL our guilt. Only God can do that. I can only live for a God of Love. A god that encourages hate and death just can't be the True God.
        Take care and may His blessings and Light be upon you! Thanks again Daylon for sharing!
        xen

      • david says:

        How nice......Except for one small fact.....NO other mainstream religion exacts physical punishment on their believers for not following the "rules" nor does any other mainstream religion require the government to be THAT religion in order to maintain control. Islam does both.

        For example...

        1. Every woman who had sex out of marriage would be stoned to death.
        2. Every girl/woman found alone with a man not her family would be punished and or stoned.
        3..Every homosexual would be executed in a public forum.
        4. Any person speaking against Islam would be killed.
        5. Woman would no longer be allowed to work in public.
        6. No more freedom of speech, to watch what we want on tv, listen on radio.
        7. Boys would be separated from girls.

        I could go on...

        Christianity? It is based on a personal relationship with Jesus and our failures are our own. We as Christians do not require YOU or You or you to be a christian nor do we use violence as a punishment for failures of fellow christians. You don't see honor killings, beheading and loss of basic rights among women in our faith. we want fellow christians to WANT to be not HAVE to be out of fear. Both the Qur'an and most Hadiths instruct Muslims to kill exMuslims. And if any of you know EX-muslims, just ask them...they will tell you......

        (Edited for brevity, Admin)

    • philo says:

      Tiffany,
      if Allah chooses who he wills for this path, what's the point of getting ourselves right? Allah has either chosen us or has not, right? This is the elimination of free will that Islam teaches.

      • Caswa says:

        @ tiffany
        Allah guide some on the Straight Path, He does not make you a Muslim...
        you have to do that yourself, that means that you still have free will to chose which way you want to go.
        Manners in Islam are very important, and calling others names like cowards,is not part of Islam...
        regardless if they are Christian or jews or.....
        A Muslim/Muslimah speak with others with kindness and respect and not with arrogance and rudness...>>Soo to sum it up......Get yourselves right!!!!!!<< no one will want to listen to any muslim if he/she speak in such manner..

    • KKKKK says:

      Dear Tiffany:
      I am a Christian. I believe in Eisa [Jesus] as the Savior ans Son of God. It is not ture that no Muslim can convert to Christianity. Some Muslims do chose Christianity. For example, you may knwo that many Kabyle-Berber Muslms in Kabylia, Algeria are converting to Christianity. Or that many Iranian Muslims, unhappy with the Iran government, are converting to Christianity. According to ex-Muslim webste Islam Watch, growng numbers of Muslims in other countries are also ocnverting to Christianity.

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  13. philo says:

    If we are talking about religion, we are talking about a way of knowing who God is. The character of the people in a the religion does not validate the religion, the correctness with which it describes God does. The God of the bible is not the god of the Quran. This is because the books describe fundamental differences between Allah and God. We have to recognize that first. Allah is alone and God is three persons in one God. Allah is distant and God through Jesus is a living relationship. There are several other differences as well. The choice of a religion is then the choice of naming your god.

    Islam is in its essence a Christian heresy. Many of the writings in the Quran about Jesus are lifted from heretical texts that pre-date it by a couple hundred years (see infancy narratives of James). It is formally a denial of the divinity of Christ akin to the Arian heresy of two centuries prior to Muhammad. Sketchy revisions of other stories (notably that of Abraham and Ishmael) are also of debatable origin. This is the foundation upon which the Muslim claims the bible and torah were manipulated. History proves that the sources for the Quran are suspect, not the other way around.

    So be it. In the interest of truth both the Muslim and the Christian have a duty to study history and read the text of the other religion otherwise they are flying blind. For the Christian this is easy but for the Muslim this is difficult because there are threats associated with looking outside of Islam for the truth. This is because the Christian has been set free by Christ and the Muslim is a slave to Islam. In this regard we can ask who is God and who is Allah. With God we are no longer slaves with Allah we submit.

    Further, and I believe this is the point of the article, we must pray for one another and ourselves to discover the truth because one of us is being deceived, and we know who the deceiver is. So look at the qualities of your god and other gods and decide which one is true, and then follow.

    • Iraj says:

      Hi!
      You said:

      This is because the Christian has been set free by Christ and the Muslim is a slave to Islam.

      I thought Inquisition was happened in Christian societies. And I believe you don't know many things about history of your religion and also Islam. When Galileo was forced to deny his knowledge about astronomy , Muslim philosophers were freely discussing about every aspect of Islam. When Isabella was killing and burning all Muslims and Jews in Spain, Christians were living safely and freely in Islamic countries ( Lebanese Christians were living there during all these centuries even after Christians invaded Islamic lands during crusades wars. And now in 21th. century you see how your people wish to reject Muslims from your country)

  14. Emily says:

    I have recently moved to Dearborn, MI, and boy can i tell you, this is NO California! It is not as 'integrated' as many say it is. I go to University of Michigan-Dearborn, and that school is very diverse, but it is pretty obvious that once you pass Warren on Greenfield you are not 'Little Lebanon" anymore. I believe this separation comes from ignorance, and economic differences, but nonetheless Dearborn is a very interesting place!
    i'm white and i am married an Arab that immigrated here from Lebanon, so don't bash me, I love him and his whole family!

  15. Sarah says:

    What can I say....as an American I am horrified! There seems to be no acculturation within the Muslim population. It is absurd that a call of prayer can be heard, that women remain veiled, and store front signs are not even in English! They are an inclusive race of people who defame our society, speak bad of the country they CHOOSE to live in, and disregard the foundations that this country was built on. Taking note of the above "prayer starters", I noticed that women were again disregared....the statement says pray for new male believers... Again in the USA all are equal! Muslim women are not equal to their male counterparts, which is truly sad. Please stand up for your rights as an American and question what is going on in Dearborn, MI.

    • Daylan says:

      So I gather we should be equally horrified at the China Towns all across our nation or Little Italy's or all the Jewish communities as well. Maybe we should set our sites on the Amish next and persecute them? Or perhaps the Cubans in Florida? While I agree that people migrating to this country to make it their home should embrace this country's ideals of equality and freedom for all, I hope they do not embrace or adopt the bigotry, racism and intolerance displayed by some of our own countrymen and women. I would not expect them to forget their past history or way of life. Just as we did not expect the Italians, Germans, Cubans, Irish, Chinese, Scandinavian or multitudes of others to.

  16. KKKK says:

    Pray for culturally relevent evanglism for Muslims in Derbon, Michigan!

    • Peter says:

      Yes, I'm with you....we need to be praying for the true light of Jesus to shine in Dearborn. May God help us to be ready and willing messengers of the Gospel! ~ Peter

      • caswa says:

        @ kkkk and peter...
        do you guys read your Bible....?
        its right there what Jesus said..black on white...
        you guys really, really need to read what He said...
        What was the reason for the "Creation" of Jesus..?
        any of you know..?

  17. frank says:

    I lived with a muslim in prison that looked like bin laden or could of passed as his twin brother! He was disrespectful ! I met many bad people in prison during the yrs I did! Glad I am free to enjoy life! I been hurt by many people and don't trust many strangers! I grew up hearing about christ but remember jim jones...feel uncomfortable about churches and preachers of different beliefs for I feel they try to brain wash the audience! i just try to live right and stay out of trouble for death row isn't a joke! many went to hell if u ask me like the mass murderers I met and talk to in prison ! I somewhat distrust islam believers for I seen and heard to many blowing thier self up on the news! Allah, god is a spirit...if u do good god is happy if u do bad god is sad...and thier is spiritual price to pay! Bin laden went to hell ...like a lot of the evil islamic believers...like a lot of the evil doers of this world! Enjoy life...enjoy your freedom and stop praying to me for I don't hear that good...I am dying...evil has been destroying me along with the cosmic universal negative forces...radiation and such...beleve it or not! I see u like a insect when u sleep...and know if u are bad or good!

  18. chris says:

    Peace will come to this world only after religion has left it. Religion is the root of all evil an that is confirmed by all of you here spewing hatred and threatening remarks. Pull yourselves out of the dark age, the age before knowledge of how the world works and the beauty of life. Imagine......

  19. dan says:

    Thomas Jefferson and Winston Churchill knew the threat that is Islam. Christ is real and so is rapture, turn to the name above all names Jesus Christ or suffer eternal damnation.

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