Thursday, September 9th, 2010

The Hindu Conversion to Islam

Nashik, India

Place: Nashik District, Indian State of Maharashtra
Population: 4 million
Christians: Less than 20,000 people, 0.5% (all denominations combined).
Muslims: 600,000 people, 6,7% (mostly city dwellers)

Nashik, (also Nasik), is a medium size, fast-growing city. The river Godavari flows through the city and the temples and steps on its banks make Nashik one of the holiest places for Hindus all over the World. Once every 12 years the city hosts millions of Hindus participating in the pilgrimage festival called Kumbh Mela (the Urn Festival). In Hindu mythology, Nasik got its name when the sister of the demon Ravana proposed to marry the god Rama. Hearing this, Rama ordered her nose (‘nasika’ in Sanskrit) to be cut off. Thus Nashik got its name. This is the context in which Muslims in Nashik live – surrounded by ancient Hindu tradition and culture.

Power to Heal the Sick

It was not until the establishment of regional Muslim kingdoms in the 14th and 15th centuries and the arrival of Muslim missionaries that the Muslims began to form a distinct community. The two leading Muslim missionaries in Nashik were Khunmir Hussaini (1520) and Syed Hussaini (1568). It is believed that both came with zealous preaching and the power to heal the sick, thus many Hindus readily converted to Islam. Devotion to these Muslim saints continues to this day.

The vast majority of Muslims in Nashik (as in all of India) are Sunnis who have been influenced over the generations by Hindu religion and culture. Some of the Muslims peoples residing in Nashik district are the Sayyed, the Pathan, the Malik, Muslims from Rajasthan, the Lakarharas (or wood-sellers who are a mixed population of Shaikhs), and a Shia sect called the Dawoodi Bohra. The majority of Muslims in the city are from the Sayyed group.

The Plight of the Muslims

A simple visit to Nashik city will easily demonstrate the plight of the Muslims living there. Many live in congested areas where the city infrastructure is of poor quality. When we wrote this article (summer 2006), there were no known ministries daily reaching out to Nashik's Muslims with the Gospel. However, this does not mean God is not at work among them.

Many genuine believers in Nashik have been praying for the Muslim community. Some are fearful of Muslims as well, caught up in the historical Indian prejudices between the varying religious communities. Another area for prayer is Malegaon, a city in Nashik district a few hours drive north east of Nashik city which is over 70% Muslim, far exceeding the Muslim population of Nashik city. Malegoan has a reputation for its communal tensions between the religious communities and the more volatile Muslim population.

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Prayer points for Nashik, Maharashtra, India:

* May God send labourers into the streets, alleys, homes and families of Nashik to proclaim Christ to the Muslim community (Mt 22:9-10).

* May God prepare the men and women of peace (Luke 10:6) among the Muslims of Nashik who can receive the message.

* May God help the Christians of in the area to move beyond prejudices to really loving and caring for the Muslim community.

* May God pour out His Spirit giving the Muslims a hunger and thirst to know God and His Word (Luke 24:27-32).

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107 Responses to “The Hindu Conversion to Islam”
  1. zak says:

    dr brother abhi,
    u have often heard LITTLE KNOWLEDGE DANGEROUS THING.if u really wants to know the real facts of islam.go to deep to earn real pearl, something i wil tell u muslims are niether god/god son/any way link to god .the whole humankind is on one purpose to worship creator of this univearse.naturally he knows better than us.i wil approve ur some of the words 'jiziya,Dhimmis etc .but u never say that quran says that all muslims by name will go to heavens.there are lots of MUNAFIQS( claiming muslims performing all duties but from heart they are non bielever,means they dont accept in monothism)these type are worst creatures on earth even from non bieliever.they claims but but alas they are blacksheeps of community.it exist every where in every country.allah swt knows best.we cannot even abuse any hindus,christian .jews,other claimed religion.MY DEAR MAY BE UR OFFSPRING GENERATION ACCEPT THIS MONOTHISM.our last prophet his own uncle didnt accept islam.then how can be he prophets i wil tell u real muslims always bielieve in creator not in creation.so try hard to filter as u know now world are modernized so u can develope some sofwares.i knows answers is impossible .BUT GOD AND ISLAM CLAIMS IT WILL BE AFTER DOOMSDAY.EVERYPERSON WILL BE ABLE TO SEE HIS GOOD AND BAD DEEDS.U KNOW FOR GOD IT IS VERY EASY.IF AHUMANBIENG CAN DO RECORDING WHY NOT GOD.(creator)so dear friend understand the facts of islam and accept with hearts.insallah u will be also rewarded by god.

  2. Ashfaq says:

    there is only one religion that is ISLAM and there is only one god that is ALLAH lefts are garbage

    • inventor says:

      Dear Ashfaq,

      Your community or religion teaches you to hate others when all others (including the garbages) are also created by the creater only. Just imagine how great your religion is!!!

    • karan says:

      do you know how islam came into existance... one day one person saw a dream and next day islam was created.... it was created by a person,, a man ...actually both muslim and cristians are jews... ashfaq read history books.... allah is one of the name of creator of world...

  3. allan says:

    if god is full of love then he will love all man kind wether hidu or muslim or any individuel .If he gives and only give then he is a god because god is Generetor Operator Destroyer .

    • inventor says:

      Dear Allan,

      You are absolutely right but the problem is that somehow some people got frustrated with their thoughts and just try to use religion like a political party......they just want to follow some blind believes by keeping the reality aside. So its very difficult to help them......

  4. zak says:

    dr brother i muslim is garbage will be lost then what will be left in this country IS THIS GO TO................................escapefromindia.wordpress.com/.i think it will be very hard to you ..........but even these harami go out ucannot change this reality to whole world.GET HELP OF RIGHT ISLAMIC SCHOLOR STUDY U WILL BE ALWAYS WELCOME TO ACCEPT ISLAM.AMEEN

    • inventor says:

      Dear Zak,

      Please dont show your frustration by using abusing words or by trying to spread Islam. Why should we accept Islam?? to through away or to hate our own culture?? Do you know the meaning of Islam??

      I am a believer of Allah and I am happy......atleast i dont have problem to go to mosque or temple or church and watever the good or bad i have guts to continue with our own culture and dharmas and instead of escape from india i want to stay in india and want to work for my motherland. First try to love your own brothers, country and culture then you can try to spread the msg of love, peace etc.etc. to other people. A political party can ask for its membership but how can a religion?!"£$

      plz come into the real world and act like a true indian......their are lots of problem in our own nation and we need to work together to resolve them

      • zak says:

        dear brother ,
        if i will frustate i will never reply on blog .but who told u hate /leave ur culture.be widen ur mind differentiate between CULTURE & RELEGION.I think if u are a true indian and want to do something then tell how we can overcome of problems of nation and what we can do together?As per muslim bilief the last prophet is Muhammad(pbuh) for the human kind.it is very clearly mention more than 100 thousands prohet send on earth for human kind , after some times wicked and bad human kinds eihter lost or corrupted the real scripture.BUT When quran reavealed in more than 24 yrs Allah (swt)gaurented that tills dooms day he will take care of his last relegion.Anyway it a open offer for till date make a single verse like quran.I accept fully that my back generations are non bilievers .If u ask any muslim in world he will accept the same full gurranty.but on the same time after prohet muhammed(pbuh) after revelation of some time he told everything that after this no more prophet will come or no more new relegion(not manmade).anyway its upon u ufollow or not no compulsion,no brainwash etc.One secret i will tell one day sun will rise from west .till that day if any human wants to accept islam it will be accepted by Allah(swt) after that it will be rejected. i i told u because u already told u never study any holy book.Thats why every muslim invites nonbelievers.IF U are really interested inrelegion comparitive study, ELse it is useless to debate on this.
        other we have to work together to solve the problems of country ,i will support and fully agree.BUT HOW???? in my opinion,,
        there are some common thing which every human bieng needs on this earth till he is alive what u want to say like love,peace. prosperity, lavish life ,home ,fresh water ,cloths,etc etc.whats a general population wants ithink u will agree , YES WE CAN DO,100 % because we have every things in our nation what we want to see our above dreams come ture.IT A REAL FACT . FOR ONE MOMENT WE WILL KEEP THE TOPIC OF RELEGION ON OTHER TABLE.
        if we can make BOLLYWOOD film then why we cannot solve our problem.the reason is that we dont have common sense ,
        we live in nation where pizza reaches faster than ambulance and police,car loans at @ 5% education loan@ 12%,rice is 40 kg simcard is free,millionaire can buy cricket team instead of donating money to any charity,footware sold in ac vegetables that we eat are sold on footpath,lemon juice with artficial flavours and dish wash liquids with real lemon,· Where everybody wants to be famous but nobody wants to follow the path to be famous. Where people are standing at tea stalls reading an article about child labour from a newspaper and say,"yaar bachhon se kaam karvane wale ko to phansi par chadha dena chahiye" and then they shout "Oye chhotu 2 chaii laao....." MY FRIENDS THERE ARE ENDLESS PROBLEM WHICH WE CANNOT DO ON BLOG.that why i have given to atleast watch that escapefromindia.
        dont take in negative be positive .i think with all these problems ,a general populations sholud not fight on the topic of relegion atleast.THE BEST ANSWERS IS THAT WE DONT KNOW TO CHOOSE THE LEADERS WHICH NOW A DAYS GOVERINING OUR COUNTRY. ITHINK U DONT KNOW THE EXPENDITURE OF PARLIAMNET FOR OUR MINISTERS FOR FIVE YEARS- FOR WHAT WE HAVE APPOINTED IN OUR DEMOCRACY,WE HAVE TO JUDGE OURSELF WHERE THEY ARE LEADING US IN EVERY FIELD.take interest on these topic u WILL learn lots of thing how we can solve the problems of our country.It will be very hard iknow but this is not one day job.PLz reply with proper answer.i am ready to share lots of facts to u but u have to also share in proper and right direction.for one moment we will forget our relegions topic.
        NOW WE HAVE TO ACT LIKE TRUE INDIANS.
        Incredible India,
        MeraBharatMahaan.

  5. Sanatan says:

    HARI OM !
    1. If allah is real name of god, why (after mohammed)1400 hundred year ago human came to know.
    2. If khatna is sunnat, it should be already cut by allah at the time of birth. Is that a manufacturing defect.
    3. How come mohammed a prophet non vegetarian, illiterate, killer of non believer. Compare him with other prophets.
    etc.
    If the creator is not partial with any muslim, hindu, christian, etc. Why are we human.
    Two caste :Men & Womend
    One religion: HUMAN

    • zak says:

      dear to.......mr sanatan
      2. If khatna is sunnat, it should be already cut by allah at the time of birth. Is that a manufacturing defect.

      Male Circumcision in Islam

      In the Name of Allâh, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful

      Male circumcision is among the rites of Islam and is part of the (in Arabic): fitrah, or the innate disposition and natural character and instinct of the human creation.

      As-Shawkani said in his book Nayl al-Awtar (1/184):

      "What the Prophet (s.A.w.) means by Fitrah is that if these characteristics are followed by a man, he would be described as a man of Fitrah, which Allah (s.w.t.) has gifted his servants with, and encouraged them to follow, so that they attain a high degree of respectability and dignity."

      Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said, "Five are the acts quite akin to fitrah:Circumcision, clipping or shaving the pubes, cutting the nails, plucking or shaving the hair under the armpits and clipping (or shaving) the moustache." (Reported in Bukhari & Muslim)

      Allah ordered Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) to follow the religion of Ibrahim (peace be upon him). When Allah says:

      "Then We inspired you: 'Follow the religion of Ibrahim, the upright in Faith'."

      (Qur'an 16:123)

      And part of the religion of Ibrahim is circumcision.

      The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "The Prophet Ibrahim circumcised himself when he was eighty years old and he circumcised himself with an axe." (Related by Bukhari, Muslim & Ahmad.)

      Ibn Abbas (r.a.) was asked "How old were you when the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) died?" He replied, "At that time I had been circumcised. At that time people did not circumcise the boys till they attained the age of puberty (Baligh)." (Bukhari)

      Most Fuqaha' (Islamic Jurists) say that circumcision is obligatory upon the men and this is the opinion of Jumhur (the majority of the scholars). If it were not obligatory, then Prophet Ibrahim (peace be upon him) would not have troubled himself at such a later stage of his life.

      The Time for Circumcision:
      During the time of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) circumcision was done for boys at the time of their Aqiqah (It's a traditional celebration for the birth of a child which involves the sacrifice of an animal in thanks to Allah. That's the short answer) as reported in al-Bayhaq.

      Other Ahadith mention it being done later. The details here are not important but it goes without saying that this minor operation is easier on a baby than it is on an older boy. If it is essential, circumcision can be delayed for practical reasons, but it would be sensible to perform circumcision before the boy starts praying regularly due to practical purposes of simplifying Taharah, or being clean.

      Abdullah Ibn Jabir (r.a.) and Aisha (r.a.) said:

      "The Prophet (peace be upon him) performed the Aqiqah of al-Hasan and al-Hussein (the prophets grandsons) and circumcised them on the 7th. Day." (Related in al-Bayhaq & Tabarani)

      Imam Nawawi says:

      "circumcision is recommended to be performed on the seventh day of infancy-the day of Aqiqah (Al-Majmu 1/303)

      It is not essential for the child to remain as he is when he comes forth from his mother's womb, if there is something that may be done for him that serves a purpose and is enjoined by the pure religion. Such things include shaving his head after he is born, because that is in his best interests. The Prophet of Islam (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: "Remove the harm from him."
      The same applies to washing the blood from him and cutting the cord by which he was attached to his mother, and other things which are done to benefit him.

      2 – The health benefits:

      Dr. Muhammad 'Ali al-Baar (a member of the Royal College of Surgeons in the UK and a consultant to the Islamic Medicine department of the King Fahd Centre for Medical Research in the King Abdul Aziz University in Jeddah) says in his book al-Khitaan (Circumcision):

      "Circumcision of newborn boys (I.e., within the first month of life) brings numerous health benefits, including:

      1 – Protection against local infection in the penis, which may result from the presence of the foreskin, causing tightening of the foreskin, which may lead to retention of urine or infections of the glans (tip) of the penis – which require circumcision in order to treat these problems. In chronic cases, the child may be exposed to numerous diseases in the future, the most serious of which is cancer of the penis.

      2 – Infections of the urethra. Many studies have proven that uncircumcised boys are more exposed to infection of the urethra. In some studies the rate was 39 times more among uncircumcised boys. In other studies the rate was ten times more. Other studies showed that 95% of children who suffered from infections of the urethra were uncircumcised, whereas the rate among circumcised children did not exceed 5%.

      In children, infection of the urethra is serious in some cases. In the study by Wisewell on 88 children who suffered infections of the urethra, in 36 % of them, the same bacteria was found in the blood also. Three of them contracted meningitis, and two suffered renal failure. Two others died as a result of the spread of the micro-organisms throughout the body.

      3 – Protection against cancer of the penis: the studies agree that cancer of the penis is almost non-existent among circumcised men, whereas the rate among uncircumcised men is not insignificant. In the US the rate of penile cancer among circumcised men is zero, whilst among uncircumcised men it is 2.2 in every 100,000 of the uncircumcised population. As most of the inhabitants of the US are circumcised, the cases of this cancer there are between 750 and 1000 per year. If the population were not circumcised, the number of cases would reach 3000. In countries where boys are not circumcised, such as China, Uganda and Puerto Rico, penile cancer represents between 12-22 % of all cancers found in men; this is a very high percentage.

      4 – Sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). Researchers found that the STDs which are transmitted via sexual contact (usually because of fornication/adultery and homosexuality) spread more among those who are not circumcised, especially herpes, soft chancres, syphilis, candida, gonorrhea and genital warts.

      There are numerous modern studies which confirm that circumcision reduces the possibility of contracting AIDS when compared to their uncircumcised counterparts. But that does not rule out the possibility of a circumcised man contracting AIDS as the result of sexual contact with a person who has AIDS. Circumcision is not a protection against it, and there is no real way of protecting oneself against the many sexually transmitted diseases apart from avoiding fornication/adultery, promiscuity, homosexuality and other repugnant practices. (From this we can see the wisdom of Islamic sharee'ah in forbidding fornication/adultery and homosexuality).

      5 – Protection of wives against cervical cancer. Researchers have noted that the wives of circumcised men have less risk of getting cervical cancer than the wives of uncircumcised men.

      Health Benefits taken from: al-Khitaan, p. 76, by Dr. Muhammad al-Baar.

      • inventor says:

        Dear Zak,

        Thank you for giving the answer of the 2nd point and I think more discussions are necessary regarding the topic which may improve our scientific knowledge but I am waiting for the answer of the 1st and 3rd questions. I think these are very good questions and will love to get clarification from you or anyone else. Please answer to the point

    • zak says:

      dr inventor,
      3. How come mohammed a prophet non vegetarian, illiterate, killer of non believer. Compare him with other prophets.
      etc.
      If the creator is not partial with any muslim, hindu, christian, etc. Why are we human.
      Two caste :Men & Womend
      One religion: HUMAN

      The truth about Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him)

      Loving him is following him
      Muslims all over the world are deeply hurt by the recent caricatures of our beloved Prophet Muhammad , in Danish and several other publications.
      Every now and then, some Western media outlets provoke Muslims by insulting the Prophet Muhammad . The baiting often succeeds in eliciting Muslims' outrage and sporadic violence.
      The latest incident started with a Danish newspaper's caricature portraying the Prophet Muhammad as a terrorist. To add insult to injury, Norwegian, French, German, Dutch and a few other newspapers reprinted the defamatory cartoons to "defend"—they claimed—the freedom of expression.
      The real issue is not the freedom of expression. Free speech is not and was never meant to be absolute. There are laws in the West that ban certain kinds of speech, including those that incite anti-Semitism, racism and violence. Moreover, some countries have laws against blasphemy and defamation. To Muslims, banning blasphemy against Allah and the Prophet Muhammad has a higher priority.
      For the European newspapers to reprint the offensive cartoons to show solidarity with their Danish counterpart seems akin to the plot the leaders of Quraysh had hatched to assassinate Prophet Muhammad .
      The Quraysh masterminds had figured that including representatives from major tribes of Makkah in the heinous plot would make it impossible for the Prophet's clan, Banu Hashim, to avenge. But Allah willed that the Prophet Muhammad would migrate to Madinah unscathed while the plotters laid siege to his house.
      The West often underestimates the Muslims' reverence for their beloved Prophet Muhammad, (sallallallahu alayhi wa sallam) and is, therefore, staltred by the fierce Islamic reaction to an insult against him. Few in the West know that for Muslims, loving their Prophet more than themselves is a matter of faith, not choice.
      Further, the depiction of the Prophet Muhammad , as a terrorist is a falsification of history. He was considered "Al-Ameen," the trustworthy, by his people even before he received the Prophethood.
      Once, when asked by some of his followers to invoke Allah's wrath on the enemies, he refused saying he had been sent as a mercy unto mankind.
      Objective Western intellectuals have acknowledged the superior character of Prophet Muhammad . In his “The 100, a Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History," Michael H. Hart ranked Prophet Muhammad, (sallallallahu alayhi wa sallam) No. 1 because "He was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels.”
      Alphonse de Lamartine, a renowned 19th Century French writer, had this to say about the Prophet Muhammad : "As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than him?”
      Unfortunately, some Muslims forget that loving their Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) means following him. Burning Danish embassies, as they did in Damascus and Beirut, to avenge the insult to the Prophet Muhammad is a complete disservice to him. Our violent reaction only plays into the hands of those who wish to reinforce the negative stereotypes about Muslims.
      Do Muslims need reminding that Prophet Muhammad , forgave the people of Ta'if who had rejected his message of monotheism and pelted him with stones, bloodying him? Islamic tradition has it that when Jibreel (Archangel Gabriel) sought his permission to punish the perpetrators, the Prophet , instead prayed that some day the inhabitants of Ta'if would leave their idols and worship Allah alone. Within a few years they did.
      Prophet Muhammad's, (sallallallahu alayhi wa sallam) servant once noted his forgiving disposition, said, "I served the Prophet , for ten years, and he never said ‘uf’ (a word indicating impatience or discontent) to me and never blamed me by saying, `Why did you do so or why didn't you do so?" (Al-Bukhari and Muslim)
      Prophet Muhammad's, (sallallallahu alayhi wa sallam) archenemies hated his Message and hurled malicious insults at him, to which he responded with forbearance. Years later when he, sallallallahu alayhi wa sallam returned as victor to Makkah, his city of birth which he was forced to leave, he asked its awed citizens, "What do you think I'm going to do to you." They said, "You are a noble brother, son of a noble brother; we expect only good from you." The Prophet responded with a general amnesty.
      Let Muslims not forget that the Prophet , encouraged freedom of expression. In the Battle of Badr, he changed the battlefield against his own opinion due to the passionate advice of some young soldiers.
      Part of the West's success today is the freedom of expression, of thought, of religion—that draws Muslims to it from their oppressed societies. For that, Muslims should be thankful to the West. After all, freedom is an Islamic value that the West has embraced while Muslim societies have forsaken.
      Defending Prophet Muhammad requires allowing freedom and practicing compassion and forgiveness, like he did. In his lifetime he , bore insults with magnanimity and devoted his time to spreading the Message of Allah. In fact, he never avenged anyone for a personal offence. Can we really respect him by violent retaliation?
      Muslims should turn this extremely painful incident into something positive, by teaching the world what the Prophet , means to us and what his life was like.
      As for the West, there really is a need to reexamine the notion of free speech. Without safeguards, the exercise of this freedom can be lethal, as we have seen.
      One may ask, is it morally defensible to provoke violence, cause death, and create a civilizational conflict for one cartoonist's freedom of expression?
      The West already has laws to protect religious freedom, which Muslims and other peoples of faith admire. What it now needs to do is protect this freedom from being trampled by unbridled free speech. No one should have to insult Prophet Muhammad, Jesus, or Moses, may Allah exalt their mention to speak freely.
      We can turn these negative, malicious cartoons into something positive by learning about the Prophet , by following him, and educating others about his teachings.
      Allah described the Prophet in the verse (which means): "And verily, you (O Muhammad) are on an exalted standard of character." (Quran 68:4)
      And (what means): "Indeed in the Messenger of Allah there is a good example to follow for him who hopes in (the meeting with) Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much." (Quran 33:21)
      By a divine decision, the status of Muhammad was raised forever, as in the verse (which means): "And (has Allah not) raised high your fame?" (Quran 94:4)
      Muslims were commanded to lower their voices low in the presence of the Prophet , out of respect, as in the verse (which means): "O you who believe, raise not your voices above the voice of the Prophet, nor speak aloud to him as you speak aloud to one another lest your deeds be rendered fruitless while you perceive not. Verily, those who lower their voices in the presence of Allah's Messenger, they are the ones whose hearts Allah has tested for piety. For them there is forgiveness and a great reward." (Quran 49:2-3)
      While other prophets were sent to their own people, Muhammad was appointed as the Messenger to all mankind. And such he was asked to declare (what means): "Say (O Muhammad): `O mankind, verily I am sent to you all as the Messenger of Allah - to Whom belongs the Dominion of the heavens and the earth." (Quran 7:158)
      On the Day of Judgement he will be the only Messenger to intercede with Allah to seek forgiveness for the wrongdoers.
      As blasphemous as the drawings are, we believe that behind all events there is Allah's pre-decree and wisdom that mortal beings fully understand only in hindsight. In the end, this deeply hurtful incident would be seen as benefiting the image of the Prophet .
      A case in point is the verse (which means): "Verily, We have given you (O Muhammad) a manifest victory." (Quran 48:1)
      When this verse was revealed, even some of the most exemplary Muslims could not understand how being prevented from performing pilgrimage by the enemies could be a manifest victory. Prophet Muhammad had just signed a treaty with non-Muslims of Makkah that imposed unfair restrictions on Muslims.
      The Prophet swore by Allah that no matter how restrictive this treaty seemed, it was a clear victory for Muslims. Within a few years, the victory became abundantly clear when Muslims marched into Makkah, not just as pilgrims but as victors.
      Our love for the Prophet Muhammad cannot be expressed except by following him. If we did that, we will see how Allah can change this painful incident into a great opportunity for the Islamic cause.

  6. inventor says:

    Dear all Indian Muslims,

    I would like to ask two questions...... by blood and gene you all are Indian and Indian culture has been created by your ancestors only. Once you are Indian then you can modify it in your own way in order to develop our culture but instead of doing this why are you spreading an Arabic culture?? The concept of one God is there from starting of the Hinduism why you can’t follow this with ancient Indian customs??

    Allah is nothing but the Arabic name of God the creator and in Indian languages its Parameswer or Bhagwan. The Each and every person even the whole universe are the creation of the same God still everything has their own specialty and differences. In the same way Indian culture is different from western or Arabic and its common, cant we take all the creations with equal respect??

    • zak says:

      dr inventor,
      first we we all are human being,son of prohet ADAM and EVE.Concept of GOD is long debate we will discuss in short and brief.if u bileive in parmeshwar or any god then what u are going to do with so much baghwan.it is ur wrong perception that any muslim is spreading any arabic culture.if u have sense come visit for gulf u can judge yourself.my brother u are perfectly right that all creations with equal respect.but can u justfy your all BHAGWAN with equal respect no.all have different powers,face,etc.not asingle verse claim in quran that allah swt only understand arabic,english,hindi.now a days u may find traslation and transliteration with many langauge.VERY SIMPLE WHAT THE TASTE U WILL GET WITH HYBRID FRUIT U CANNOT GET TASTE AS NATURAL FRUITS/VEGETABLE.If uare ready to to accept.Quran was revealed with not the arabic what u see today.it was the local langauge which the terrible arab tribe can understand and follow.many other holy books are reveled in different langauges .BY HEART UCANNOT TELL HINDUISM IS SO MUCH PURE AS ISLAM REVEALED AROUND 1400 YRS AGO.u judge yourself with ur lots of holy books if u are really ineterested.
      2.why are you spreading an Arabic culture??
      who told u or hear that any muslim follow arab culture.very bad perception plz visit different countries then u will get perfect answer.Any body who claims himself as muslim he has to follow the teaching of quran and model human example of prohets not arab culture.I MEAN MONTHISM AND UNIVERSAL BIELIF.
      there is a commom code of conduct which he has to accept if he claims as real muslim.U are right that if we born we are indian but why we all are following ENGLISH in supreme court of india IS ITOUR REAL LANGUAGE.brother u know answer.
      we can proudly say we are indian if any arabs is not following the rigth teaching of islam that he is not following u know why because every muslim have commom code of conduct.every body knows the strict rule for crossing the boundary of islam CAN EVERY MUSLIM FOLLOW THE SAME SAME RULE NO.beacuse they stay in different countries.
      plz come with ur solution with hinduism or sanatan as relegion iam ready to accept hinduism ONCE U GO TO http://WWW.escapefromindia.wordpress.com FOR INDIAN CUSTOM .ARE U READY TO JUSTFY LIKE THIS U WANT TO BE FOR OUR COMMON PARMESHWAR.PLZ ADVICE ME.

      • inventor says:

        Dear Brother Zak,

        First of all I am here not to glorify Hinduism or hate Islam, so please don’t misinterpret me. I just tried to share my thought with all and its great to receive a reply from you. Here I have tried to clarify some facts in brief……

        “we all are human being, son of prohet ADAM and EVE”
        For your kind information the theory of Adam and Eve was proved false by Darwin long back, I got doubt whether you are living in reality or not!!

        When you believe in god then how can you speak like an atheist?? What is the meaning of “your bhagwan”? Do you think bhagwan is only for me and there is someone else for you and another one for others?!? And again what is the meaning of “all bhagwan”?? I already told Bhagwan is only one and he should be one, you can find him everywhere and can call him by any name.

        I don’t think you truly realize or even trying to realize the real facts and just want to stay in illusion.

        Actually the God is infinite and no one can bind him in a simple idol or by a mere name. What we can really do is – ‘we can feel him by our innerself’. Muhammad, Buddha, Christ reached him by deep meditation. The idol worship is nothing but a way to pray or worship our creator, just like we pray to our parents and nothing else. Moreover we can express our thought, culture, ideas and artistic views through the different styles of different sculptures and paintings. So I don’t think this is bad anyway.

        “U CANNOT TELL HINDUISM IS SO MUCH PURE”
        Dear Brother I think you are not taking me in right way. My intension is not glorifying Hinduism, I am here to discuss and clarify some facts. Hinduism cant be defined by any single culture or god. It comprises all the cultures developed in various parts of India and we take all of them with equal respect, that’s why its called Sanatan Dharma. Ofcourse I cant say it’s the best but we can make it better and as Indian you also have right to do this but if we simply bring some foreign culture here and ignore our own then one day we will lose our identity. one more thing the meaning of Sanatan is similar to eternal or universal and my brother for your information it is already inside you so please don’t try to accept it from anyone else, you can simply follow it by respect, faith, truth and love.

        Truly speaking till now I haven’t read Quaran, Geeta, Bible or Vedas but many times I went to Mosque for Namaz and Temples for Pujas and what I found the spiritual experiences are similar.

        And when it comes to the matter of languages then I can say that each human has sense, feeling etc. through which we can understand the good or bad. Then why a separate code of conduct is necessary only for Muslims?? Do you think muslims are separate from humans?? Allah has given us brain and sense so human is able to think their own in order to reach the truth unless anyone just close his/her eyes and ears and ignore the truth.

        British ruled India for about 200 yrs and somehow we got dependent on the language. With this now due to computer and other electrical advancements English is spreading all over the world. Now Indian government is trying to implement our own languages for official works and hopefully we will be able to cope up soon. Anyway we can discuss the matter later.

        I have just seen the site http://www.escapefromindia.wordpress.com

        Poverty
        Human Development
        GDP growthPopulation
        Living conditions
        Education
        Health
        Corruption
        Discrimination against Dalits etc. etc.

        are definitely real problems of our motherland but just keep your hand on your heart and think if your mother is poor, uneducated or so on…….then will you leave your mother or through her away for live in peace or will think to change?? Hope you will use your brain and sense to think !&£!?!

        • zak says:

          dear inventer,
          Thanks for sharing thought, i think u are interested in camparitive study of different
          religion.ok iam ready to give ur answer but from yourself also u should study about about different religion then u will be satisfied what u are finding.first there is no comulsion in ISLAM that without taking prior knowledge u sholud accept it.if any body claims and not following the rules of islam there are some words .i will give u MURTAD,MUNAFIQ these are arabic roots word for clear meaning u try and search dictionaries.in short they fall in category of HYPOCRITES.any way
          1.1. If allah is real name of god, why (after mohammed)1400 hundred year ago human came to know
          allah has not name i has more 99 names,The name '' Allah" is the combination of two arabic words''al'' and ''ilah'' "'Al" means "the" And ''ilah" means "God" these two words come together and refer to ''THE GOD",which implies ''the only god''.or the only true god''
          Nothing else can be called Allah.the term ha no plural or gender.this shows its uniqueness ehwn comapred with the word''god'' which can be made plural(ie gods) or feminine (i.e goddess).
          many relegion also claims bilief in one GOd however ,they associate parterners with him.exmple 1)worshipping or asking gods attributes to otherobject or creation.
          2)Delegating some of god,s attributes to other objects or biengs.
          3)Setting up rivals with god by elevating something to be in opposition to him.
          the above mentioned beliefs or action all go against very principle of islam.
          Muslim believe that allah is :The One
          1)Allah is one and has no partners at all
          2)Allah has no equals or associates
          3)Islam rejects characterising Allah in any human form
          4)NOne of his creation resembles him
          5)there is nothing comparable to Allah
          6)Nopart of Allah is present in anyone (although his knowledge encompasses every thing)
          Do you know the meaning of Islam??
          Iclaim i love my conutry but the question is how ????? any measurement.
          if the answer if i love then why i sholud daily let my urine to go and mix on that land ,i kown it is very blunt answer but u ask very critical ......First try to love your own people and country and motherland then you can try to spread the msg of love.anyway i think love,peace etc .YOU have to first divide culture and relegion u can only connect it but cannot mix.different countries have different culture but RELEGION IS ALWAYS REMAIN SAME .or it should be changing from palce to place .?
          I THINK LOVE CAN BE ONLY DEMOSTRATED BY DOING GOOD DEEDS & MEASUREMENT IS OUR OWN SOUL.
          i think we sholud love culture i agree and to supports but if i am milkman i have two cans i is filled with pure milk other is impure which one will be BEST.Hope you will use your brain and sense to think !&£!?!
          WHO IS TELLING YOUR COUNTRY IS POOR.WE OURSELF MADE LIKE THAT WE THE HUMAN BIENG WHICH THEY ARE SATYING IN THAT LAND ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE. I BILEF .A MOTHER IS NEVER POOR IF HE GOT OBIDIENT CHILD
          Now santan dharma -Only the quran has remained unchanged and preserved ,while the other original revelations have lost or corrupted.
          Dr inventor . we are only debating i have no intension to insult u or any others biliefs ,its upon u if u want truth u have to work hard to aqiure right knowledge .allahumdollilad( i thanks allah(swt) that i am follower of islam.due to lack of time slowy i will answer ur questions.you are always welcome to enqiure question about islam.if u wish really NO COMPULSION for u or any body.

          • inventor says:

            Thanks a lot Zak for your reply, ofcourse u can take ur time. even i too got a busy schedule and
            sorry for my late reply. even i hv thought something to reply and slowly will write.

            keep in touch

          • Inventor says:

            HERE A LITTLE REGARDING YOUR 19 May, 2010 at 19:15 BLOG:

            Through out your blog i found you just tried to establish that ISLAM is the only pure path of living, Muhammad is the final messenger and the lines written in Quaran are the best and final. I can agree if you can give me relevant proves.

            400yrs before Galileo proved that Earth is moving the sun but all other had strong belief that sun is moving the earth. Now you know the truth and it came through proves not by simply belief!?!
            Don’t you think if someone claims that “I am the only hero and no other hero is there” then except some dumb person, everyone will laugh at him?? Dont you think such belives are funny??

            We all need water to survive and we all drink the same water and it can be found in different parts of the world but you can call it water, I and call it pani or someone else call it tanni, so does it make any difference to the properties of water?? Now if I claim that only I have the water or ‘PANI’ is the purest form of water or there is no other form of water except ‘PANI’ then what will be your impression on me??

            You told that the God has another 99 names. When you can call him by 100 names then why can’t I call him in another 1000 or more names?? He is unlimited, his creation is unlimited then why his names are limited??

            You can see the images of universe in google and can understand how big the universe is. when all these are created by only one god then you can realize his supremacy. If he really wants some rule to put, then simply he can put it on us why would he wait for our acceptance??

            Now keep apart these, I believe a person and he is my guru. He is god’s final messenger and I believe only him and follow him. Suppose I have another 2 friends and both of them have separate guru and both think their guru is the final messenger. Each one of us thinks that all others are in wrong path and he is only on right direction!! Now can you find who is correct?? Try to prove it with proper argument

            And the matter of milk: I don’t think it’s a relevant example.

            Coz: 1st ly you don’t know whether its really impure!! Then definitely you have to prove it by its chemical analysis.
            2nd ly if something is impure then surly some parts of it is pure and instead of thinking about the impurities we can think positively and can get the purest one from it.
            3rd ly the person carrying impure milk will never accept that its impure so truth cant be found out by simply believing anyone’s speech.
            I didn’t get the meaning of the following line: “i will give u MURTAD,MUNAFIQ these are arabic roots word for clear meaning u try and search dictionaries.in short they fall in category of HYPOCRITES.any way”

            do u think I am a HYPOCRITE?? Its fine my bro, plz let me knw how and will definitely clear your doubts regarding my hypocrisy, you are always welcome……
            I am really interested to discuss about the religaion, culture, motherland etc. and will continue in following blogs

          • Inventor says:

            Similarly, why there is limited number of prophets?? if Muhammad visited the earth as final messenger then why we are not problem and pain free??

    • Sanatan says:

      Dear Inventor,
      Thanks, to convey the real message of sanatan dharma that GOD IS ONE.
      Along with you my message to all muslims is:
      1. I am being a hindu an idol worshiper got everything from the creator what I requested. Like me there are billions of idol worshipers, Amitabh Bachan, Lata mangeshkar, sachin tendulkar, mahatma gandhi, etc. all idol worshiper, (unlike muslims) who never prayed one god, but creator gave them name, fame, wealth, prosperity, happiness.
      I ask WHY??????.
      2. I stay at Qatar, an Islamic country and i have seen many muslims pray five times a day. These muslims live away from their family for more than two years and i have seen their wives carry an extra marital affair Also you will find people suffering from poverty even after praying five times a day.
      3. If there is a cricket match India Vs XYZ (Islamic people) why may even idol worshiper won the match.
      Dont be bookish..........like Dr. Zakir Naik

      Being worshiper of one god is just a myth, whoever you pray...........just pray.....do not create propoganda and hurt other religion.

      Brahma/Parmeshwar/God/Allah/Jihovah etc. are the names given to the creator of this beautiful world.

      History is witness.........Bhaarat never invaded any country ...........Bhaarat ........true culture, true people...........people of LOVE

      Spread LOVE................

  7. inventor says:

    Dear Zak,

    Please dont show your frustration by using abusing words or by trying to spread Islam. Why should we accept Islam?? to learn those nice words or to hate our own culture?? Do you know the meaning of Islam??

    I am a believer of Allah and I am happy......atleast i dont have problem to go to mosque or temple or church and watever the good or bad i have guts to continue with our own culture and dharmas and instead of escape from india i want to stay in india and want do somthing for my motherland. First try to love your own people and country and motherland then you can try to spread the msg of love, peace etc.etc. to the other people. A political party can ask for its membership but how can a religion?!"£$

  8. zak says:

    dr inventor ,
    Thanks for question ,respectfully u are invited to such queries .First of all u and everybody (human beings) are created with free will .that why u send such question ,its all wisdom of allah(swt)that i got chance to see and reply it. iam thankfull to allah(swt) that he keeps me alive to answer becuause u also know death can come any time and any where.Any how from Adam to Mohammed(pbuh) there are lots of messenger and prophets were send for human kind we only knows some of them through authentic scriptures and sources.onething there is difference between messenger and prophets.Every messenger is not prophet but every prophet is messenger.First u accept human kind is the best creation of all his creations and thats what we see,feel,realize than also deny his(allah-swt) supremacy.if we accept by heart then thier is iman or bilief.onething for conversation first we should come on same level platform.i already calrify dont use word GOD that is not correct as i already mentioned above .HE IS UNIQUE AND INFINITE SIMPLY WHAT CAN ANY HUMAN CAN CLAIMS.HIS name is not only 99 iwas already knowing that u will ask me why not more yes u are right it is not limited.but u have to agree our mind has limited power untill now lots of thing in universe we are exploring and critisizing our own old bilievs and theories.but what islam mentioned one time it is fixed thats why lots of criticism now a days to this relegion anybody bilieves or not it will remain same untill dooms day.100 minus 1,He (God) is odd (odd number, he is the Only One), nothing else so it is basically attributes,some of the name are hidden from mankind.Islamic theology makes a distinction between the attributes of God and the divine essence.The 99 names point to the inherent unity of the all-embracing Greatest Name,The Greatest Name of Allah is the one which if He [Allah] is called (prayed to) by it, he will answer." (Ibn Májah).[6]There is a misconception that there are only 99 Names of Allah that have been revealed. This is incorrect. Please see Al-Mubaada Al-Mufeedah fee Tawheed wa Fiqh wa 'Aqeedah by Ash-Shaykh Yahyaa bin 'Alee Al-Hajooree. At the end of the 4th printing, he lists 109 names with the evidences from the Qur'aan and Sunnah. All of the names were affirmed by Ibn Qayyin in his work Nooneeyah. A GIFT for ur study only Schimmel, Annemarie (1993). The Mystery of Numbers.it will help us both to come closer on comman platform.Allah Almighty have 99 -Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him said: "To Allah 'God' belongs 99 names, 100 minus 1, anyone who fully understand and memorize them all will enter his Paradise; He (Allah) is odd (Like odd number, Because he is One And the Only One), and He loves odd numbers (such as 99)". "Allah!, There is no God but He! To Him belongs the Most Beautiful Names." (Qur'an 20:8) . u know this watch on google(545 - Islamic Science: Neil Armstrong Proved Mecca is the Center of the World ) ANY way u have free will bilieve or not it fixed in islamic bilef.
    400yrs before Galileo proved that Earth is moving the sun but all other had strong belief that sun is moving the earth. Now you know the truth and it came through proves not by simply belief!?!
    Astronomers found that the moon’s movement is 18 kilometers per second, while the Earth’s is 15 kilometers and the sun’s is 12 kilometers .
    The sun, earth & moon all move & the distance between them is stable and regularized.
    This was explained in the Holy Quran fourteen centuries ago.
    The Holy Quran says “And the sun Runs his course for a period determined for him: that is the decree of (Him) the exalted in Might, the All Knowing. And the moon we have measured for her Mansions (to traverse) Till she returns like the old (and withered) lower part of a date – stalk. It is not permitted to the sun to catch up the moon, nor can the night outstrip the day: Each (just) swims along in (its own orbit) (According to Law) [36:38-40].
    Here Allah the Excelled in might says “And the sun runs his course for a period determined for him” Then He says “ It is not permitted to the sun to catch-up the moon”.
    This means that the moon is meant to be before the sun where as the sun runs and can not catch up it. Because the speed of the moon is 18 kilometers & that of the earth is 15 kilometers while that of the sun is 12 kilometers. No matter how fast the sun move, it will not overtake the moon. But what makes the moon retain its mansions while it can leave them? The astronomers found that the moon runs in a zigzag swing and not in a straightforward line. The moon runs in this manner to retain its mansions and locations.
    In this manner Allah the only creator organized and systemized the orbiting & more movements of all of them so that they retain their orbiting traces & do not depart them.
    Therefore, we have the regular succession of Night & Daytime, seasons etc….
    Don’t you think it is an excellent determination?
    Is it possible that it has come only by chance?
    No, it has not come by chance because chance cannot create such excellent & systematic norms of the universe.
    Allah has created all this & creates this systemic cosmic norms.

    Source: “The Age of Faith has dawned
    If he really wants some rule to put, then simply he can put it on us why would he wait for our acceptance??
    u r write THATs WHAT EVERY BODY HAS TO DIE TO GIVE ANSWERS FOR HIS ALL DEEDS THEN THE FINAL RESULT HELL OR HEAVENS IT UR FREE WILL.
    I believe a person and he is my guru. He is god’s final messenger and I believe only him and follow him. Suppose I have another 2 friends and both of them have separate guru and both think their guru is the final messenger. Each one of us thinks that all others are in wrong path and he is only on right direction!! Now can you find who is correct?? Try to prove it with proper argument
    NO PROBLEM FOR ME OR GOD U WANT WHAT IS MUNAFIQ-HE CLAIMS TO BE HIMSELF THAT THERE IS ONE CREATOR ,EVERYTHING IN THIS WORLD BELONGS TO HIM ,WE ARE SLAVES ,HE BREATHES,SLEEPS AWAKE ,EVERY ACTION WHAT HE DO,THINK,PERFORM THAT HE IS OWNER BUT ATLAST HE DIE WITHOUT ANY TRUE BILIEF OR ''IMAN'',REMEMBER WE HAVE ONLY ONE CHANCE GIVEN TO PROOVE OUR TRUE LOYALTY TOWARDS CREATOR.EVERY BODY WILL BE RESURRECTED ON DOOMS DAY FOR HIS FINAL FATE.IT UR FREE WILL U ACCEPT OR NOT.First u may appoint guru it upons u but my suggestion will be why not we choose best guru.god has given us free mind apply it and choose it ur will.MURTAD- AFTER ACCEPTING AND UNDERSTANDING BASICS OF ISLAM IF HE IS NOT PERFORMING AND REGULARLY DENYING .HE IS CALLED AS MURTAD NO MATTER WHAT HE KEEPS NAME.THEY ARE CATOGARIZE AS PER ISLAMIC BILEF WORST CREATURES ON EARTH.U CAN SEE LOTS OF LIVE EXAMPLES.THEY KEEP THERE NAME ISLAMIC BUT EXACTLY DO WHAT IS TOTALLY FORBIDDEN .AND ON ANY COST IS NOT ACCEPTABLES,BUT THEY CLAIMS LIKE ACTORS/DANCERS /PRETENDING PRIEST ,ALWAYS THEY TRY TO PROOFS THE THING IS RIGHT WHAT THEY ARE PERFORMING WITHOUT ANY CONCRETE EVIDENCES.ITS A FREE WILL.THEY ARE REAL HYPOCRITES XMPLE
    THANKS
    PLZ BE PATIENCE FOR MY FURTHER ANSWERS.

    • TDI says:

      Re: Comments in General

      TIP!

      You can all do yourselves a favor and make your comments shorter. That way folk will read them and respond. On such a website, long comments rarely get read (according to the statistics). Think Twitter or Facebook for examples ...

      God bless, TDI (Admin)

    • inventor says:

      Dear Brother,
      U have written long but still my questions are not been clarified!! U are always busy to write the greatness of allah, which I never asked. And solar science was developed in India long before Muhammad, which was carried to Arabia by visitors, u should be more proud about that!!

      Now come to the point, I can agree that some greatness should be there in quaran and Muhammad but which I cant agree that these are the final!! If these are the final and absolute then all the believers of islam should be the happiest people in world, but reality says the opposite.

      Indian culture teaches us to respect and love all and after all India is not only a large country but a country with various different cultures in its different parts. Following this mentality I love to go to differet religious places but I found many muslims have problem to go to temple or church, infact islam restricts its believers to go there and in many places I have seen temples are converted into mosques……plz tell me whether it is the greatness of a religion?? Plz answer this question first

      plz b brief and to the point

    • inventor says:

      Dear Zak,

      I don’t knw whether u r getting my points or not!! I asked u some specific questions but didn’t get the answer!!

      I m sorry to say that u don’t hv proper knowledge. Hindu name was given by Arabian visitors to the pple who live beside the river sindhu. The name India also came from the sindhu. In Arabic, hindu = Indian and whatever the culture, religion etc. etc. has been developed in India was named as hindu culture or religion. So it is neither a single culture or religion, nor a single concept or not developed by a single person.

      What we actually follow is sanatan dharma which means universal or eternal and IT IS THE OLDEST CONCEPT OF RELIGION IN HUMAN HISTORY, which works for whole mankind not for a particular community. unfortunately many of our own pple follow such a TRUE RELIGION which serves only for a specific community and treat others as KAFIR!!£$%

      Plz give me the proves about the corruption of geeta or Vedas?? and instead of rectifying the corrupted portions why r u accepting some other religion??

      "If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah (God) never will It be accepted of Him" (Soorah Aal'imraan 3:85)

      Why allah is so partial?? A real father should be equal for all of his sons, no matter they r good or bad!! if allah really need our submission to bless us then surely he is neither powerful nor the creator!! Do u think allah as ur own property!!£$$

      ADAM:: I hv already given u the proof that adam was not the first man!! u r still believing the fake idea u were taught by ur religion!! Human was developed from animals, that’s why we worship many animals as our ancestors.

      If peace b upon Muhammad then why he himself killed non believers and destroyed temples?? Is it the way of peacemaking??

      Actually ur brain is tuned up to follow only the middle-east philosophy and u knw nothing abt ur own!! U hv kept ur eyes close and the scientific theories are also meaningless to u. Once u told muslims follow different culture in different countries and now u r telling everywhere muslims follow same culture!!£$

      Unity in diversity is india’s pride, that is why southern ppl eat their food and we also love that without leaving ours. we never ask pple to follow a specific culture. Ur brain has been washed and I am really helpless brother. God bless u

  9. riti says:

    this is an interesting conversation....enjoyed going through it.... but i think instead of arguing which religion is best, we should concentrate more upon whats right and whats wrong..bec after all, all religions teach us how to live rightfully .... nothing is perfect, nothing can be perfect.... but by using r brains and knowing the difference between right and wrong, we can solve many problems...like religious conflicts....

    • inventor says:

      Riti……. Dear riti,
      thank u for showing ur interest. u can see the above blog. as an indian i learned to respect and love all and after all India is not only a large country but a country with various different cultures in its different parts. Following this mentality I love to go to differet religious places and want to protect such a culture but I found many muslims have problem to go to temple or church, infact islam restricts its believers to go there and in many places I have seen temples are converted into mosques.

      what i think is not a good mentality and against indian culture. this is purposely injected into our people by converting them into muslims. Here i am asking other muslims to argue on this matter

      • zak says:

        dr inventer,
        we should love each other,respect absolutly right ,onething we sholud follow the indian culture.but the problem is that whether we are able to preserve our culture .Major thing is that it is now corrupted.it is your wrong views that every muslim is against indian culture.nothing is wrong with india or geography of place.Ask and feel yourself how much indian cultured now days how much we have preserved .u know the right answer
        so naturaly it cannot transfer to next generation.Thats why we need relegion(True Ones).

        • inventor says:

          Dear Zak,

          If we try to convert people from various different cultures into islam and teach them not to follow our ancient customs or not to go to our own temples and support the conversions of temples into mosques then how can we preserve our culture??

          i never told all muslims are against indian culture, afterall they r indian and good human but wat i found islam doesnt teach to respect or love other religions!! this is the problem of islam not indian muslims!!

          And can u plz give me the definition of true religion??

          • zak says:

            dr inventor,
            i agree that forcibly to accept islam is not accepted,it is haram one should never do,anyhow if in india itself lots of muslim named emperor ruled then why till date 80-90% are non believer.it is true that dont judge islam with follower.go to authentic sources of other relegious book to understsnd islam.
            Very good question TRUE RELEGION. it means noncorrupted his original form in what it has been revealed.Many times i requested u search deep in sea to find pearl .Never follow any muslims there are autnethic sources plz study all those.if u will try to find it on blog or inetrnet.it will show brand name of jeans ,Strive yourself if u really want to find true religion.God has given u free mind/heart/time untill death and last most important ur free decesion.IN MY OPINION THE BEST THING STUDY UR SELF DIFFERENT RELEGION AUTHENTIC BOOKS CAMPARE IT WITH ISLAM.then u may understand true religion.there will be lots of questions which u will not agree.Insallah i will help you .BUT BE SURE THE CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS AS IT HAS BOTH SIDE EDGES.DARE IT TO ACCEPT IF U WILL HANDLE BADLY IT MAY SPOIL U ALSO.SO IN ISLAM THERE ARE VERY STRICT AND FIXED RULES AND CODE OF CODUCTS.thats why there are so many blacksheeps in the name of this relgion.after accepting and understanding they know the results after death but whole life they dont accept islam by heart.For u only one verse is MUNAFIQS-HYPOCRITES.PLZ SPEND SOME TIME TO STUDY VERSE- 63- MUNAFIQUN(the hypocrites) TRANSALTION OF THIS.U TOLD ME U LOVE VISIT TEMPLES ,CHURCH,MOSQUE ETC.
            i already submitted lots of thing that there is no problem with india or its culture who changed . u yourself changed we didnt send the god on internet or in bus ,in moneybags.in tshirts,intrees,snakes,on tiles,on mountains and alot of things ,if will try to find like this a true religion then u yourself dont know when/where u are going to die.
            IN my opinion thier is a problem with indians muslims not islam .A lot of thing if u find in indian culture are very good and best.they respect old gaurdians ,dont use to much flesh ,not accepting lie peoples.if u will choose dress code almost good now some different.keeping themself pure ,IF U HAVE ANY SOURCES TO COLLECT THE INDIAN CULTURE THEN IT WILL BE VERY EASY TO SHARE MY VIEWS.VISIT INDIA RANDOMLY VILLAGES AND CITIES THEN U WILL UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE OF INDIAN CULTURE .can u tell south to accept north foods daily answer u know .so it will be better first look inside before blaming other cultures.i think no muslims has done all this .how they stay or pray in india the same u will find in us/europe/africa/australia or any where on earth this is called universal brotherhood.who told u to make lots of god and godess .
            Simply a balaji god cannot be transfered to vaisnav or any other temple .the answers u know .it our intenal problem dear not any culture or religion.hope the answer satisfy.

          • zak says:

            dr inventor,
            definition of true religion?
            The first thing that one should know and clearly understand about Islam is what the word "Islam" itself means. The religion of Islam is not named after a person as in the case of Christianity which was named after Jesus Christ, Buddhism after Gotama Buddha, Confucianism after Confucius, and Marxism after Karl Marx. Nor was it named after a tribe like Judaism after the tribe of Judah and Hinduism after the Hindus. Islam is the true religion of "Allah" and as such, its name represents the central principle of Allah's "God's" religion; the total submission to the will of Allah "God". The Arabic word "Islam" means the submission or surrender of one's will to the only true god worthy of worship "Allah" and anyone who does so is termed a "Muslim", The word also implies "peace" which is the natural consequence of total submission to the will of Allah. Hence, it was not a new religion brought by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) I in Arabia in the seventh century, but only the true religion of Allah re-expressed in its final form.

            Islam is the religion which was given to Adam, the first man and the first prophet of Allah, and it was the religion of all the prophets sent by Allah to mankind. The name of God's religion lslam was not decided upon by later generations of man. It was chosen by Allah Himself and clearly mentioned in His final revelation to man. In the final book of divine revelation, the Qur'aan, Allah states the following:

            "This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion". (Soorah Al-Maa'idah 5:3)

            "If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah (God) never will It be accepted of Him" (Soorah Aal'imraan 3:85)

            "Abraham was not a Jew nor Christian; but an upright Muslim."(Soorah Aal'imraan 3:67)
            Nowhere in the Bible will you find Allah saying to Prophet Moses' people or their descendants that their religion is Judaism, nor to the followers of Christ that their religion is Christianity. In fact, Christ was not even his name, nor was it Jesus! The name "Christ" comes from the Greek word Christos which means the annointed. That is, Christ is a Greek translation of the Hebrew title "Messiah". The name "Jesus" on the other hand, is a latinized version of the Hebrew name Esau.

            For simplicity's sake, I will however continue to refer to Prophet Esau (PBUH) as Jesus. As for his religion, it was what he called his followers to. Like the prophets before him, he called the people to surrender their will to the will of Allah; (which is Islam) and he warned them to stay away from the false gods of human imagination
            hope the answer satisfy.

        • inventor says:

          universal brotherhood doesnt mean to convert others into ur brothers!!! it mean taking everyone as brother and showing respect all other cultures as our own...... ur mind is so corrupted that u cant see anything to respect in others cultures........ except islam every thing is saytan and except muslims everyone is kafir to u!"£$$

  10. inventor says:

    Dear Zak,

    I don’t knw whether u r getting my points or not!! I asked u some specific questions but didn’t get the answer!!

    I m sorry to say that u don’t hv proper knowledge. Hindu name was given by Arabian visitors to the pple who live beside the river sindhu. The name India also came from the sindhu. In Arabic, hindu = Indian and whatever the culture, religion etc. etc. has been developed in India was named as hindu culture or religion. So it is neither a single culture or religion, nor a single concept or not developed by a single person.

    What we actually follow is sanatan dharma which means universal or eternal and IT IS THE OLDEST CONCEPT OF RELIGION IN HUMAN HISTORY, which works for whole mankind not for a particular community. unfortunately many of our own pple follow such a TRUE RELIGION which serves only for a specific community and treat others as KAFIR!!£$%

    Plz give me the proves about the corruption of geeta or Vedas?? and instead of rectifying the corrupted portions why r u accepting some other religion??

    "If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah (God) never will It be accepted of Him" (Soorah Aal'imraan 3:85)

    Why allah is so partial?? A real father should be equal for all of his sons, no matter they r good or bad!! if allah really need our submission to bless us then surely he is neither powerful nor the creator!! Do u think allah as ur own property!!£$$

    ADAM:: I hv already given u the proof that adam was not the first man!! u r still believing the fake idea u were taught by ur religion!! Human was developed from animals, that’s why we worship many animals as our ancestors.

    If peace b upon Muhammad then why he himself killed non believers and destroyed temples?? Is it the way of peacemaking??

    Actually ur brain is tuned up to follow only the middle-east philosophy and u knw nothing abt ur own!! U hv kept ur eyes close and the scientific theories are also meaningless to u. Once u told muslims follow different culture in different countries and now u r telling everywhere muslims follow same culture!!£$

    Unity in diversity is india’s pride, that is why southern ppl eat their food and we also love that without leaving ours. we never ask pple to follow a specific culture. Ur brain has been washed and I am really helpless brother. God bless u

    • zak says:

      dr brother,
      if u love peace then u should not use such impression or word.any how now u urself accepting that u are kafir .there is no compulsion that u accept islam.its ur free will .dont write any meaninless theory .if human being is converted from aniamals.then till date why u are living with human being go convert single animal into human being . now i think iam wasting my and ur time.dont talk about universal brotherhood.first learn ur own brother ST?SC to love .i cannot tell that god show partiality.can u marry with them/eat with them but they can drink alcohol together.ALAS u use ur common sense .STUDY WELL ABOUT DARWINS THEORY.else that Swhy u are KAFIR .........FIRST MAKE EMAAN.ONE DAY U WILL DIE LIKE THIS U WILL BE ASKED ALSO THAT SOME BODY HAD REMIND U ABOUT THIS TRUTH .BUT U ARROGANT NOT ACCEPTED.REMEMBER ALWAYS ONE TRUE BELIVER WILL WEIGH MORE THAN THOUSAND NONBELIVER.
      BROTHER UR INDIA IS NOT ONLY EARTH OR LIMITED TO WORLD GET OUT FROM THIS .U R MIND SETUP WILL BE ALWAYS LIKE UR IDOLS .USLESS TO EVERY THING. I CANNOT TELL U KAFIR ATLEAST U BELIVE THERE IS GOD.ANY WAY U ARE FOOL .BUT NOT 4 EVER.MAY BE SOME DAY U CAN ACCEPT THE TRUTH.MAY ALLAH(SWT) GUIDE U .IF U WANT STUDY HINDU SCRIPTURES .HINDU RELEGION IS MOST FOOLISH RELEGION ON THE EARTH IDOL WORSHIPPER UR MINDS ARE LOCKED IN IDOLS OPEN IT TO SEE THE WORLD WITH HEART NOT FROM EYES.
      ONETHING DONT GET PANIC SO MUCH KEEP PATITENCE.

      • inventor says:

        WOW, Gr8 my brother...... u got irritated so much dat even want to stop sepeaking to me??!! nice......

        now just imagine, u repeatedly asked me to accept islam by leaving our own and how much irritation i got with such an EXTREME INSULTATION!!£$ i love my religion and can work to improve it but i m not going to leave it at any cost and its not my foolishness. i ll definitely get blessings from allah by doing my duties.

        and by using the words u hv shown ur level of patitence clearly!!

        one of my muslim frnd told me that according to islam, except muslims all others r kafir, was he wrong?? plz tell me
        and wat do u mean by UR INDIA?? india is our country and i love her, she is not my property!! and is it not ur india??

        and do u want to tell dat darwin is wrong??

        anyway i am sorry if i hurt u anyway and i m not compelling u to speak with me

        • karan says:

          answer only one thing why plz plz why all muslims are terrorist or answer this why all terrorist are muslims.......
          ..
          ...
          kafir.... except muslims all are kafirs

          meaning of kafir: are the people who are not terrorist and belive in peace..

          muslims have more blood in hand ..... true you ppl pray sartan thats why janat=hell...

          i am not anti muslim ...
          hindu idols may be foolish according to you but they never says to kill someone only because they dont belive in them.

      • inventor says:

        WOW, Gr8 my brother...... u got irritated so much dat even want to stop sepeaking to me??!! nice......

        now just imagine, u repeatedly asked me to accept islam by leaving our own and how much irritation i got with such an EXTREME INSULTATION!!£$ i love my religion and can work to improve it but i m not going to leave it at any cost and its not my foolishness. i ll definitely get blessings from allah by doing my duties.

        and by using the words u hv shown ur level of patitence clearly!!

        one of my muslim frnd told me that according to islam, except muslims all others r kafir, was he wrong?? plz tell me
        and wat do u mean by UR INDIA?? india is our country and i love her, she is not my property!! and is it not ur india??

        and do u want to tell dat darwin is wrong??

        anyway i am sorry if i hurt u anyway and i m not compelling u to speak with me, its upto u to answer my questions

  11. Independent Observer says:

    My Question to Athiest :
    Name the Scientist born before Holy Prophet Adam.
    Name the Scientist who invented the tiniest particle himself.
    Name the Scientist who never grew old.
    Name the scientist who never died.

    Now a Note to Hindu ( Vedantic friends) Hindu is not a Religion But its Vedantic. All Muslims live in India are also Hindus in geographical terms.
    Dear Friends, Most of You are misguided people, you never studied Vadh ,and ignorently
    worship Idols.
    Read Below:
    ALL Vedhs Stand by ONE ALMIGHTY GOD AS Muslims DO:
    Vedic Monotheism: Verily HE in ONE: Atharva Veda 13/4/20
    HE is sole Soverign of the Universe Rig Veda 6/36/4
    GOD has no Image/ NO ONE ever seen HIM Yajur Veda 32/3

    Now Prediction in " Kalki Avatar" A Sanskrit BOOK: now translated & witnessed by Professor
    Pundit Veda prakah Upadhy of Alahabad University : He & other Scholars confirmed that
    Kalki Obtar fully befits None but Holy Prophet Mohammed(MSAS).

    Now read" Barm Uttar Khand" A Holy Moha Dev sitting on "Kailash parbat" was telling his wife "Parvati" about Kalki Abtar:"Mohamat will guide the people to the truth to worship ONE GOD.

    Bhonic Uttar Puran :vyash Rishi: Mohamet will come,Cloud will protect Him from the Sun,
    His body will have no shadow,fly will not seat on His body,He will journey too far places in short time.Whoever will follow His Book, His way will reach to ALMIGHTY GOD.

    Because learned Hindus(Vedic) worship one ALMIGHTY GOD, no body should call any one Kafir.

    To Christians:
    "and I fell to worship Him(Holy Jesus) he said, thou do it not,I Am thy fellow servant & thy brethren, worship GOD" Revelation 19:10

    "can of myself do nothing" John 5:20-31

    Holy Jesus did not know what is the tinyest seeds, John 3:20 KJV.

    Satan concealed as a holyman took Holy Jesus to highest Mountain & showed him the glory of the earth & told Holy Jesus that satan will give him everything if Holy Jesus bowdown before him"
    Matthew 4:1 8-10

    Therefore all wise & honest believers will know that Holy Jesus was a Holy Prophet not GOD.

    Remember, The Angel Gabriel presented a Holy Book from ALMIGHTY GOD like a shining mirror which descented in to the heart of Holy Jesus at the age of thirty years.
    Therefore. No one knew much about Bible But only Holy Jesus.
    ALL Holy prophets were sent to their own tribes. Holy Jesus was sent to Israel but Holy Prophet
    Mohammed was sent as a mercy to Mankind. This is clearly witnessed by Holy Jesus
    Holy Jesus said" Verily I say to you, that the Promise was made to Ishmael not to Isaac"
    Holy Jesus further said" Belive me thatI I have seen Him.............and when I saw Him, my heart was
    filled with consolation saying O Mohammad GOD be with Thee and may be make worthy to unite thy shoe latchet for obtaining this,I shall be a great Prophet and holy one of GOD"
    Holy Jesus was not crucified .They killed him not ,but they crucified His enemy Juda isacret
    whose face was turned to the shape of Holy Jesus,

    The basildians at the prime age of Christanity believed that Jesus was never crucified.
    The non believers did kill few Holy prophets but ALMIGHTY GOD saved Holy Abraham from Fire, Holy Yunus from the whale which could not devour him, similarly Holy Jesus was saved & was taken away alive in the Heaven.
    Please note Holy Prophet Enoch who did not want to die was also taken away to heaven by Angels.
    Holy Jesus did all His miracles with the help OF ALMIGHTY GOD, same was done by Holy Prophet Ezakeil who called about 900 dead to life with the power of ALMIGHTY GOD. Holy Moses was saved ,Holy Prophet Mohammed Divided the moon in two pieces.

    Who ever believed in one ALMIGHTY GOD & lead an honest life is called a Muslim under the umbralla of Islam. So Islam is the oldest Religion first Propagated by Holy Adam(AS)
    ALL Holy Prophets confirmed it & Lastly Holy Prophet Mohammed completed the teaching of Islam
    and is the last Holy Prophet.

    Holy Jesus will come to witness Islam & will not bring any other religion.

    Remember, All Jinns & humanbeing have free will, and therefore there is no compulsion in religion,
    Its up to them to believe or not in ALLAH SWT.

    But We as Muslims can never hate any Hindu,Christian or others for we are all brothers in humanity.
    We are not allowed to call any one Kafir,destroy Churches or temples or tear their Religious Books.
    It is up to ALLAH SWT to judge others,We are human being we have no power to kill any innocent person or hurt any person by calling a bad name.

    ALLAH has given a peaceful message for all mankind.

    Holy Prophet Mohammed forgave even worst enemies of Muslims after the conquest of Arabia,
    there was no looting, killing or dishonouring women, but a tax was imposed on Rich Jews for Muslims wre very poor.

    Look at the true History of India,still there are 80 percent of Hindus, If Islam was a cruel Religion after 1000 years of Muslim rules how could non Muslims had survived.

    Holy Prophets allowed Jews & Christians to practice their Religion, even He allowed His Holy Mosque to Christians to worship in His Mosque.

    May ALLAH SWT help us for peaceful living & guide us to truth, Amin,
    B.Ahmed

    • inventor says:

      Dear Independent Observer,

      Though i didnt read vedas but i knw there is only one god(he should b one) and when we worship any idol we consider the same almighty god only. we always tell the krishna, rama, siva are the same.......and its just our imagination in different forms. Actually different gods were worshipped in different parts in india and instead of fighting each other we just show our respect to each of them and after times all of them included in indian culture. now we dont think lord krishna is ours or lord venkateswara is for tamils. my thinking is that we can show our respect to allah in same way and in other hand muslims will also show same respects towards temples and sculptures. it will not only b helpfull to bring peace and harmony but also will make our culture better........ god is for all humans :-)

    • inventor says:

      Name the Scientist born before Holy Prophet Adam.
      Name the Scientist who invented the tiniest particle himself.
      Name the Scientist who never grew old.
      Name the scientist who never died.

      Dear Mr. Independent,

      1. Can u plz kindly tell me the date of birth of prophet adam according to history?? then i can tell u the name of the scientist!!
      2. There are number of scientiests who were associated with the discovery of electorn, proton, nutron etc. plz tell me wat exactly u want??
      3. Scientists are human being only so they hv to grew old!! i dont knw wat u want actually???
      4. Every human is mortal, so scientists hv to die one day. wats wrong with u??

      If u really want something through scientific facts, then plz ask me clearly. i ll surely help u as a science student.

      And if i agree with ur point of view regardign kalki avatar then all the vedantic mythology are true. then what is the use of the effort to convert the hindu pple into muslim?? i think in such case all muslim pple shuld learn vedas to reach the truth!!

      and after all these when ALLAH has given a peaceful message for all mankind then why many of muslim pple are unable to follow the peaceful path?? if a doctor cannot cure himself then how can he cure others??

      As world's second largest religion i think its Islam's duty to spread the msg of love, brotherhood and peace among its followers (muslim's) first!! once i ll see all muslims are really peacefull then happily i will accept islam, otherwise it will be fake to me!!!

      God bless u

  12. Independent Observer says:

    BIS MILLAH HIR Rahmanir Rahim: In the name of ALLAH SWT the creator of the vast Universe.
    Muslim call HIm ALLAH,
    Hindus call HIM"OH" or Obinashar or Ishawar.
    Christians call HIM GOD
    Sikhs Call HIM "Ohey GURU"
    Jews Call HIm"ELA" or EL .
    HE is called by various names BUT HE is ONE & FOR ALL.
    IF there was separate ALMIGHTY GOD, the world would have torn apart,
    The feature of animal and human being would not be alike.
    Everything is created by one ALLAH SWT with beauty & HE granted though "Freewill", HE
    instilled Acumen ,intelligence to know HIM by HIS Glorious Signs.
    IFwe believe & maintain honest & decent livings,you pass, alternatively we fail.
    World is now a small place, therefore as ALMIGHTY told us in the HOLY Quran": HE created many
    Nations to know each other but not hating each other.
    ALMIGHTY ALLAH SWT offered us a best charity" Simplicity ,respect & Smile".
    Holy Prophet Mohammed smiled & behaved respectfulyy with all.
    It cost us nothing , if we greet each other, smile at each other & help each other with the smallest possible way.
    Do we not see ALMIGHTY GOD is LOVE. HE Loves all for HE created all. There are equally handsome men & women among all races because HE loves all & HE created all.
    I am a Muslim, Should I help only Muslim,Never if I can help all needy & poor irrespective of colour or creed. Never think He is Hindu & I am Muslim. Let us help each other even with a smile
    this also counted as a charity.
    Let us not hate poor, lame or blind nor we hate any colour , for ITS ALLAH .HE Loves all & Created ALL.
    Religion is not war : it propagate peace. ALLAH SWT sent 124000 Prophets with same message:
    "know ME & worship ME " then respect thy parents, Love thy neighbours & fellow human being, donot steal, donot kill any innocent human being for killing an innocent is like killing the all humanity.
    Now hate & hate all around . Muslim killing Muslims, Hindu killing Hindus, Western killing eastern in Australia ,& Arabia & other parts.
    Lets us therefore endeavour to bring unity in the community of nations through mutual love & understanding & may ALLAH SWT help us to live in peace with Iman, honesty & goodwill.
    Thank You.

    • inventor says:

      Dear Independent Observer,

      I am supporter of such thinking.i brought up in hindu family but many times i went to mosque for namaz or in church for prayer. for all human god should be same and we just follow diff paths to reach him.

      after all these i love my country and our age old culture. but i found in many occassions muslims are trying to convert pple into their own religion just for increasing their population and then they teaching them to consider others as kafir!! do u think it is good?? i heard from many muslims that islam forbides them to go to temples!! temples are nothing but the sign of our glorious past and scientific advancements, if our own pple (indian muslim) doesnt show respect to our own things then surely we hv to see the creation of another pakistan!!! indian culture started in the soil of today's pakistan but now pakistan has adopted islamic(arabic) cuilture by throwing their own. In india also many of our temples was converted into mosques!!@#@

      so please tell me what sould be our(lover of mother india) response towards the conversion activities?? and how can we save our culture??

  13. Sanatan says:

    Dear All,

    My message to all my muslims brothers is:

    1. I am being a hindu an idol worshiper got everything from the creator what I requested. Like me there are billions of idol worshipers, Amitabh Bachan, Ambani Bros., Lata mangeshkar, sachin tendulkar, mahatma gandhi, etc. all idol worshiper, (unlike muslims) who never prayed one god, but creator gave them name, fame, wealth, prosperity, happiness.
    I ask WHY??????.

    2. I stay at Qatar, an Islamic country and i have seen many muslims pray five times a day. These muslims live away from their family for more than two years and i have seen their wives carry an extra marital affair Also you will find people suffering from poverty even after praying five times a day.
    3. If there is a cricket match India Vs XYZ (Islamic team) why may even an idol worshiper team wins the match.

    Dont be bookish..........like Dr. Zakir Naik

    Being worshiper of one god is just a myth, whoever you pray...........just pray.....do not create propoganda and hurt other religion.

    Brahma/Parmeshwar/God/Allah/Jihovah etc. are the names given to the creator of this beautiful world.

    History is witness.........Bhaarat never invaded any country ...........Bhaarat ........true culture, true people...........people of LOVE

    Spread LOVE................

    • kawankawan51 says:

      Dear Sanatan,
      ///...billions of idol worshipers, Amitabh Bachan, Ambani Bros., Lata mangeshkar, sachin tendulkar, mahatma gandhi, etc. all idol worshiper, (unlike muslims) who never prayed one god, but creator gave them name, fame, wealth, prosperity, happiness///

      Above you said are worldly pleasures...materialism.. there is no such things in islam.. Islam forbidds it..
      hmmm...
      India has majority of idol worshippers, hundreds of thousands of temples, it has powerful gods, goddess's , little, medium and mega gods....
      then why india got disasters like Tsunami, earth quakes, plague, poverty...Bhopal TOXIC gas tragedy... ? WHY all these disasters...? WHY....And Why the many idols have lots of weapons in their hands and temples but why they failed to save THEIR own garments, jewels from theft..? WHY..?
      if i ask such questions people will think i gone crazy....i wont ask such questions....never...i wont hurt other religion by asking those questions.....grow up..open ur mind & eyes.. there is only ONE GOD...

      • Sanatan says:

        Hello Mr. Kawan,

        LOL, As you suggest me to open my mind and when you speak about tsunami, earthquakes etc. these are natural disasters. Such disasters does'nt see whom that is going to affect, whether he is an idol worshiper or anyone else. In this even so many muslims, christians, buddhists etc. got affected. Then if it is so, it should affect worshipers of one god. Now, I suggest you to check the reality. World's biggest terrorism comes from countries like pakistan, iraq, afganistan etc. which also leads to killing of innocent children and women. History is witness, British and Mughals invaded other countries. And countries like saudi supports such activities religiously and financially. If you and your book of religion supports killing of innocent people, then you must be right according to your point of view.
        When you talk about idols with weapons, there is a term called SELF DEFENCE.
        Now apart from your religious book, kindly read history and then get back to me.........

        • inventor says:

          Dear Sanatan,
          I strongly support ur opinion. even me too found many times dat muslims often consider religion before authentic truth, science or history. I dont knw in today's world how can they ignore science and historical proves!!! when they believe god is one and we all are god's creation only then how can they consider themselves better and other's as kafir??!! they always shought dat PEACE BE UPON MUHAMMAD but in reality they cant show a peacefull muslim country!! i really dont knw wat they actually want for the humanity!!$$%%# I just want to ask all of my muslim brothers dat whether peace is really possible by hurting other's sentiments?? or by converting others when muslims themselves r in terrorism?? or by brainwashing other pple??

          • Sanatan says:

            Thanx Dear,
            For ur support,

            To bring differences amongst all, there are ppl like Dr.Zakir naik under the name of peace............LOL

      • inventor says:

        Dear Kwan,
        can u plz ans the questions came to my mind??

        1. when god is every where then why do u construct mosques by spending lots of money?? and when u hv many mosque then why do u hv problems with so many temples??

        2. if islam forbid materialism then why do muslims invade other countries for wealth?? and instead of meditating in forest or hills why r u working for money??

        3. Tsunami effected all the human in same way, there is no difference in idol worshippers or muslims!! why cant allah save his followers?? dont u think for god all humans are same??

        4. and after all these do u knw the concept of one god was decribed in vedas long before muhammad's birth and it is the oldest book in human history??

        waiting for ur answers

  14. Sanatan says:

    DEAR ALL MUSLIM BROS,

    DO U SUPPORT WHAT DR. ZAKIR NAIK DOES? IF YES ......WHY?

    HE SAYS HE WANTS TO BRING PEACE......LOL. HE JUST WANT TO SPREAD HIS RELIGION. ACTUALLY HE IS JUST BRINGING COMMUNAL FEELING AMONGST MUSLIMS FOR OTHER RELIGION. already he is banned for his speach by bringing hatred amongst SHIA MUSLIMS.
    He is a marketing head of islam. When he says, Mohammed is mentioned in the vedas and he is a KALKI Avatar (Tenth reincarnation of Lord Vishnu). Dr.Naik seem to be crazy, as far as I know , Islam does'nt believe in reincarnation ...... HAHAHA. And if it is so, vedas are so superior than the quran that it mentioned thousand of year back. Also the real name of Mohammed is Mahaamad (same as Mahadev, Maharaj, Mahashay etc.) and is stated in vedas that he himself created islam. I never know about this ever before, but when I heard from zakir naik I got an interest to find out the truth. So, support to stop religious people like Dr. Zakir Naik.

    God is Great,
    Ishwar Mahan Hai,
    Allah hoo Akbar.
    All r d same

  15. Independent Observer says:

    To all readers!
    Dr.Zakir Naik says nothing from his own mind,nor does he invent anything from his own Book.
    Duty of every Muslim to pass the message of truth without hurting feelings of anyone.
    Islam propagates"There is no compulsion in Religion " But true message must be conveyed to others its up to them to accept or reject. People who make mockery does not know that the mockery will follow on them after they disappear from the earth.
    Life passes so fast that only true believers will fear ALMIGHTY GOD & follow the true path. We all are sinners as we do many wrong every day. thats why main call for "Jihad" not to kill others but to fight against our own evil desire ,
    The world is a test for us , If we believe in one ALMIGHTY GOD ,We win,but if we mockery with GOD by worshippin Idols, we lose.
    So donot make mockery with Dr.Zakir Naik, laugh at yourself for you donot like accepting the truth.

  16. inventor says:

    Dear Independent,

    Duty of every Muslim is to pass the message of truth but its not their duty to follow the true peaceful path??!! Dr. Zakir Naik is spreading the msg of brothehood by supppoting Osama bin laden. According to his point of view laden is gr8 peson though he killed thousands of innocent pple!!! think independently and tell is it the way of peace or is zakir naik is right??

    true believers will fear ALMIGHTY GOD. If u r a sinner then only u ll fear, when u r a true believer then why should u fear god?? what is the meaning of almighty then?? I just love god and i dont found anything to get fear!! I think living in love is far better than living in fear.

    Plz tell me wat do u think.

    if u really think islam is only true path then plz give the evidences u have. The pple who believe without proves are nothing but the ignorent!!!

    and after listening him i found zakir naik is a clever and he is just making the pple fool........If i really want to accept ISLAM then i should learn the holy quaran and hadit first but he is somehow convinceing some unaware pple to accept islam. its nothing but marketing and effort to convert the gr8 ISLAM into a cheap commodity!!!

  17. Sanatan says:

    Hello Everybody,

    In this I want to mention the most important point, of being SECULARISM

    SECULARISM: In one sense, secularism may assert the right to be free from religious rule and teachings.

    A human will be only called human when he is secular. Religion which brings communal feeling(ISLAM) will take you to the path of war, hadred and destruction. If I will have a communal feeling, I will think about the Religion, Colour, Nationality and I wont be able to love him at all. The feel of I am great, I am right and you are wrong is not the true message of the creator.

    Example: The Almighty Creator created the universe. On planet earth all living and non living things, Mountains, Water, Sky, Animals, Birds, all human whether he is a Hindu, Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Muslim......etc. Now when the Creator doesnt make a difference between anybody, then who are we to do so. Such a big Example is the creator himself being secular, then WHY cant we?

    There is saying, GOD HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES.
    God does'nt help them who only worship and does nothing.
    And this is a FACT........The Truth
    Whatever you achieve in your life, you get with your hard work and destiny (God's Grace)

  18. Iraj says:

    Hi!
    I'm a Muslim. I saw in this correspondence someone asked a few questions and now I try to answer them as I can. I should tell you I'm not a scholar and so maybe my answers are not complete. However:

    Q) If allah is real name of god, why (after mohammed)1400 hundred year ago human came to know.

    A) Allah is an Arabic word and it's used to mention : "The God". Arab Christian and Jews use that word to mention "The father" and "Jehovah". Islam did not introduce Allah as a new God. the word of "Allah" was in Arabic language and even pagans knew Allah as the creator of the world. Arab Jews knew Allah as the real and only God and we have some famous Jew in the history whose names was "Abd-o-llah" (that means: servant of Allah)

    Q) If khatna is sunnat, it should be already cut by allah at the time of birth. Is that a manufacturing defect.

    Islam knows itself as a religion which is continuing Jewish and Christianity. So we have many Islamic laws which are in fact Jewish laws that are confirmed by Islam. Khatna was one of those laws. Forbidding meat of pig is one another.......

    Q) How come mohammed a prophet non vegetarian, illiterate, killer of non believer. Compare him with other prophets.

    You can't find in the history that the Holy Prophet start a war against others. In all his wars the enemy either was betrayal or declared war first. Pagans of Mecca rejected Muslims from their homeland and captured their properties. Such an act means declaring war and Holy Prophet used their own language (force) against them. Bani Qurayza (some Jews) helped Quraysh (pagans) during their attack to Muslims and so they betrayed Muslims and peace contract......
    I mean Holy Prophet teaches us to be sincere in peace and firm against betraying.
    Holy Quran order us to fight back when we are invaded. But immediately order us to accept peace when we are offered.

    • Sanatan says:

      Hi,

      LOL, That means you are following a jewish and christian religion..........so you now want me to read Torat and Bible for further more clarifications? Answer given by you were not specific and even further kindly dont give me any scientific clarification. i.e. scientifically its proven Khatna is a protection from some diseases. If it so, billions of non muslims around the world are they suffering from such diseases? So I mean to say......WHY WHY WHY....allah at the time of birth still kept it uncut?????...........Also why it is not mentioned in other religious books.........Here it means Allah is a different author(Mohammed)........Open your mind and look at the fact.

  19. Independent Observer says:

    Dear Friends, Thank you for your comments.
    Please remember:
    Islam was first propagated by Holy Prophet Adam. Islam is the First & last Religion accepted by ALLAH SWT.
    There were advent of 124000 Prophets in this world.All came with same message of Islam.
    "ALMIGHTY ALLAH is ONE the creator of the Vast Universe" HE created Jinns & Humanbeing to
    worship none but HIM alone.
    All Religious Scrpitures contained the same message but satanic minded High priests changed the wordings to misguide the people.
    They talk about incarnation, Did any one : Any Prophets or saints had rebirth ?
    Exception: We believe Holy Jesus is alive & He will be sent back by ALMIGHTY GOD before the
    destruction of the world.
    They talk about worshiping Idols: Ram ,Krishna must have been saints but not GOD,they were human being "Men of flesh & blood". No one can compare ALMIGHTY GOD in the form of an IDOL.
    its the greatest Sin,Sin,Sin................/
    They talk about Bin Laden, He is not a Prophet or saint. Its his way,his thinking, hate has no place in Islam. Bin Laden is not a symbol of Islam . All true Religious Islamic leaders are propagating peace.
    Bin laden is not only a single person who loves fight, What about Moaist & other rebellious leaders in Naga land, Assam & the like.They follow their own ways like Binladen.
    What about Bush : masaccared children , what about Israel killed children in their sleep

    Here We talk about the teaching of Islam, Holy Quran & the Holy Prophet Mohammed.

    No scientist has created an atom weight of particle, they discovered the mass power created by ALLAH SWT & learnt to use these power for healthscience, travel business & human destruction.

    So be wise & learn the truth. Everything is Created by ALLAH SWT & men has only borrowed the
    wealth & power created by ALLAH SWT.

    Islam teaches us to love & live.
    Thank you

  20. India is very huge country with complex equation of caste and religion...i am amazed how someone pointed to Nashik...In Nashik people hindu never faught with muslim on issue of religion though its major religious centre for hindus...
    We need good youth and united india for welfare of this country

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