Comments on: A Vision to Reach Muslims in Nuristan, Afghanistan http://30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/ 97 Muslim countries, people groups and cities we pray for Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:46:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Bill Bernhard http://30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-22603 Bill Bernhard Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:16:34 +0000 http://www.30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/#comment-22603 Scott while one can appreciate your fascination with Nuristan you have no clue what you are talking about. If you want to know more about Nuristan visit Dr. Richard Strands Nuristan Site on the Web for he is the World’s most knowledgeable person on Nuristan more so than the Nuristanis themselves. His knowledge on the peoples of Nuristan, their language, their culture, and their history are unsurpassed. There is still an enclave of the former Nuristani peoples in Chitral and they still practice a mixture of animism/Hinduism. In Barg-e Matal they still make wine but they keep the fact hidden as it would mean their death with some in the Islamic faith. In Wama they still have ancient Greek looking vats where their ancestors use to stomp the grapes to make into wine. As for as tolerance goes, you have no clue, the Nuristani peoples prior to their conversion in 1895 would take Muslim heads and put them on a wall erected in the area which is now called Kaligush. This was done as a deterrent to any Muslims who might think about trying to move north into their area. When they were betrayed in 1895 by a fifth columnist they were conquered and forced to convert to Islam by the sword so much for tolerance on either side. The ancestors of the Nuristani peoples in Chitral are allowed to stay animist at a price. Their women (not all) are used by the Muslim men in the southern parts of the North -Western territory of Pakistan as prostitutes. You speak of tolerance go ask any Christian in the Middle East if he believes the Muslims are tolerant. You know not of what you speak. Scott while one can appreciate your fascination with Nuristan you have no clue what you are talking about. If you want to know more about Nuristan visit Dr. Richard Strands Nuristan Site on the Web for he is the World’s most knowledgeable person on Nuristan more so than the Nuristanis themselves. His knowledge on the peoples of Nuristan, their language, their culture, and their history are unsurpassed.
There is still an enclave of the former Nuristani peoples in Chitral and they still practice a mixture of animism/Hinduism. In Barg-e Matal they still make wine but they keep the fact hidden as it would mean their death with some in the Islamic faith. In Wama they still have ancient Greek looking vats where their ancestors use to stomp the grapes to make into wine.
As for as tolerance goes, you have no clue, the Nuristani peoples prior to their conversion in 1895 would take Muslim heads and put them on a wall erected in the area which is now called Kaligush. This was done as a deterrent to any Muslims who might think about trying to move north into their area. When they were betrayed in 1895 by a fifth columnist they were conquered and forced to convert to Islam by the sword so much for tolerance on either side.
The ancestors of the Nuristani peoples in Chitral are allowed to stay animist at a price. Their women (not all) are used by the Muslim men in the southern parts of the North -Western territory of Pakistan as prostitutes.
You speak of tolerance go ask any Christian in the Middle East if he believes the Muslims are tolerant. You know not of what you speak.

]]> By: Scott http://30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-22602 Scott Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:47:12 +0000 http://www.30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/#comment-22602 I find it absolutely fascinating that of the people of Nuristan, particularly of the Nysa group, are descended from Greeks who moved there before the time of Alexander the Great. According to "Greeks in India," the Nysa had a Greek-style republic, although with aristocratic rulers rather than the democracy common today. They apparently were excellent winemakers until recently. At least until the 1960s, in Pakistan there were a group of people near Chitral who practiced animism. I doubt that is still the case but I could be wrong. The Greek ancestry might help explain the appearance of the Afghans with fair skin. I think the diversity even in the strictest regions in the world shows that there should be tolerance, particularly toward those of differing faiths. There is a history of religious tolerance in this area if you go back far enough. I find it absolutely fascinating that of the people of Nuristan, particularly of the Nysa group, are descended from Greeks who moved there before the time of Alexander the Great. According to "Greeks in India," the Nysa had a Greek-style republic, although with aristocratic rulers rather than the democracy common today. They apparently were excellent winemakers until recently. At least until the 1960s, in Pakistan there were a group of people near Chitral who practiced animism. I doubt that is still the case but I could be wrong. The Greek ancestry might help explain the appearance of the Afghans with fair skin. I think the diversity even in the strictest regions in the world shows that there should be tolerance, particularly toward those of differing faiths. There is a history of religious tolerance in this area if you go back far enough.

]]> By: KKKK http://30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-22363 KKKK Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:53:22 +0000 http://www.30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/#comment-22363 Dear friend Sameer: Did you read the report on Algeria? Its reported that many Kabyle Muslims are returning to the Christian faith of theri father Augustine [there are about 5 million Kabyle in Kabylia region of Algeria; maybe 130,000 are Christian. the numbers are gorwing fastst! Check ti out! See you! Dear friend Sameer:
Did you read the report on Algeria? Its reported that many Kabyle Muslims are returning to the Christian faith of theri father Augustine [there are about 5 million Kabyle in Kabylia region of Algeria; maybe 130,000 are Christian. the numbers are gorwing fastst! Check ti out!
See you!

]]> By: Bill Bernhard http://30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-17332 Bill Bernhard Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:18:09 +0000 http://www.30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/#comment-17332 Jedidiah you have no clue as to what you are talking about. Have you ever been to Afghanistan? If you become a Christian there and you were a Muslim before, you are a dead man. The US military has done more to help the people in that country than any one in history. It is idiot liberals such as you who are the biggest impediment to the Gospel being preached anywhere. Everyone of my Muslim interpreters knew I was a Christian in Afghanistan and when I did not show up for Iftar on the third day of Ramadan they asked me why I did not come and I told them because they did not invite me that night and they replied "Bill you are not like the rest your are always welcome." It is the politically correct crowd who has done more to harm the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ than any misstep of the US Military, any time, anywhere. John, you mean well but you are wrong. I have never once apologized for the actions of the US in any Islamic country I have served in whether Bosnia, Iraq, or Afghanistan and I have Muslim friends in all three. I have Muslim friends from Egypt, as well as Syria, and Jordan. There is no collective guilt for me to ask forgiveness of because I was not there for any of the wrongs which you imply have occurred. Have there been wrongs committed by the West, of course there have as well as there have been wrongs committed by many from the Islamic nations. Do you know anything about Islam; have you ever read the Quran or the Hadith's? Do you know anything about sharia law and its workings? An Iraqi Christian (Chaldean) once told me "Bill that there is one Christian still remaining in one Muslim nation in the world today is a miracle of God”. If you know anything of History and how Islamic law is carried out within the Islamic world you would realize how true that statement is. Enough said, God is God and as all Christians know there is but one God who rules over all, He is the triune God (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), three, yet one. Christ alone is King. zbogom Jedidiah you have no clue as to what you are talking about. Have you ever been to Afghanistan?
If you become a Christian there and you were a Muslim before, you are a dead man. The US military has done more to help the people in that country than any one in history. It is idiot liberals such as you who are the biggest impediment to the Gospel being preached anywhere. Everyone of my Muslim interpreters knew I was a Christian in Afghanistan and when I did not show up for Iftar on the third day of Ramadan they asked me why I did not come and I told them because they did not invite me that night and they replied "Bill you are not like the rest your are always welcome." It is the politically correct crowd who has done more to harm the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ than any misstep of the US Military, any time, anywhere.

John, you mean well but you are wrong. I have never once apologized for the actions of the US in any Islamic country I have served in whether Bosnia, Iraq, or Afghanistan and I have Muslim friends in all three. I have Muslim friends from Egypt, as well as Syria, and Jordan. There is no collective guilt for me to ask forgiveness of because I was not there for any of the wrongs which you imply have occurred. Have there been wrongs committed by the West, of course there have as well as there have been wrongs committed by many from the Islamic nations. Do you know anything about Islam; have you ever read the Quran or the Hadith's? Do you know anything about sharia law and its workings? An Iraqi Christian (Chaldean) once told me "Bill that there is one Christian still remaining in one Muslim nation in the world today is a miracle of God”. If you know anything of History and how Islamic law is carried out within the Islamic world you would realize how true that statement is. Enough said, God is God and as all Christians know there is but one God who rules over all, He is the triune God (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), three, yet one. Christ alone is King.
zbogom

]]> By: Muhib Nuristani http://30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-372 Muhib Nuristani Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:07:12 +0000 http://www.30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/#comment-372 Al information on this site are true and I really appreciate all effort for the people who are trying to better my people and my home land , and about the pray I must say that it doesn’t matter who is praying, God always accept if you pray from your heart . And yes if any body needed any New information about Nuristan please contact to me Muhib_nuristani@yahoo.com It would be my pleaser to provide any kind of information about Nuristan Al information on this site are true and I really appreciate all effort for the people who are trying to better my people and my home land , and about the pray I must say that it doesn’t matter who is praying, God always accept if you pray from your heart .
And yes if any body needed any New information about Nuristan please contact to me Muhib_nuristani@yahoo.com
It would be my pleaser to provide any kind of information about Nuristan

]]> By: Sameer http://30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-356 Sameer Wed, 02 Jan 2008 07:48:02 +0000 http://www.30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/#comment-356 As an American and a Muslim, I find it disturbing that a site like this is promoting exactly what it is trying to eliminate:Islamophobia. Let's get this straight, I find this site to be insulting and insensitive to Afghans and Muslims alike as it uses our beloved month of Ramadan as a tool to misguide us as well as the missionaries' blatant disregard for the culture and religion of the Afghan people. God, protect the Afghans and guide these missionaries to Islam, ameen. God, show Your True Self,ameen. As an American and a Muslim, I find it disturbing that a site like this is promoting exactly what it is trying to eliminate:Islamophobia. Let's get this straight, I find this site to be insulting and insensitive to Afghans and Muslims alike as it uses our beloved month of Ramadan as a tool to misguide us as well as the missionaries' blatant disregard for the culture and religion of the Afghan people. God, protect the Afghans and guide these missionaries to Islam, ameen. God, show Your True Self,ameen.

]]> By: Esther http://30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-343 Esther Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:03:09 +0000 http://www.30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/#comment-343 We're doing a study on the Nuristani people for our Perspectives course. We are wondering where the information on the 2 Pashtun believers who risked their lives to bring the gospel to the Nuristani long ago, came from. We can't find it anywhere else. We'd really appreciate any more information you can give us on this for our study. We're doing a study on the Nuristani people for our Perspectives course. We are wondering where the information on the 2 Pashtun believers who risked their lives to bring the gospel to the Nuristani long ago, came from. We can't find it anywhere else. We'd really appreciate any more information you can give us on this for our study.

]]> By: Yvonne http://30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-258 Yvonne Sat, 29 Sep 2007 09:06:45 +0000 http://www.30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/#comment-258 The Taliban fighters in Afghanistan need Christ. They are motivated by various things. However they all need to catch the heavenly vision of Christ’s kingdom. May they come to see that God’s good and righteous will can really be done on earth as it is in heaven (Mt. 6:10). The Taliban fighters in Afghanistan need Christ. They are motivated by various things. However they all need to catch the heavenly vision of Christ’s kingdom. May they come to see that God’s good and righteous will can really be done on earth as it is in heaven (Mt. 6:10).

]]> By: Kim b http://30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-253 Kim b Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:42:29 +0000 http://www.30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/#comment-253 I recently visited Afghanistan and found that most Afghans are so thankful for the American military in freeing them from the tirancy of the Taliban. Their country is slowly rebuilding and it's mostly by the efforts of the American military and christian. There are numerous fellowships springing up as a result of the freedom that the country now feels b/c of what the American military did for them. Lastly, the freedom of women in that country is slowly growing after decades of women dying of simple diseases, being murdered for immorality b/c they were raped or abused. I even visited a momument in the western part of the country dedicated to thanking our military for what they did for the country! I think God is using the American military in Afghan to open up the country for the gospel! So, thank God for what our troops are doing there. I saw it first hand! I recently visited Afghanistan and found that most Afghans are so thankful for the American military in freeing them from the tirancy of the Taliban. Their country is slowly rebuilding and it's mostly by the efforts of the American military and christian.

There are numerous fellowships springing up as a result of the freedom that the country now feels b/c of what the American military did for them. Lastly, the freedom of women in that country is slowly growing after decades of women dying of simple diseases, being murdered for immorality b/c they were raped or abused.

I even visited a momument in the western part of the country dedicated to thanking our military for what they did for the country!

I think God is using the American military in Afghan to open up the country for the gospel! So, thank God for what our troops are doing there. I saw it first hand!

]]> By: john http://30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-250 john Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:32:41 +0000 http://www.30-days.net/muslims/muslims-in/asia-south-central/nuristan-afghanistan/#comment-250 It's too easy to point the finger at the Americans and ignore the fact that they are the result of centuries of colonialism practised by Caucasians in general, most particularly the European nations that are now dumping most vociferously on the Americans. I agree that we need to pray for peace, most specifically in the war-torn countries of the Middle East, but let's all recognise our collective guilt and pray for His forgiveness, working FOR reconciliation and peace rather than polarising things. It's too easy to point the finger at the Americans and ignore the fact that they are the result of centuries of colonialism practised by Caucasians in general, most particularly the European nations that are now dumping most vociferously on the Americans. I agree that we need to pray for peace, most specifically in the war-torn countries of the Middle East, but let's all recognise our collective guilt and pray for His forgiveness, working FOR reconciliation and peace rather than polarising things.

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